BAFTAlicious 2013: what's next?

[Moviefreak]

I kind of think people are reading into this a bit too much. All this passion and love for SLP hasn't netted it much of anything. If there was that much passion for it, it really should have performed better at SAG amongst the actors, who are its key supporters for all intents and purposes. I think this BAFTA win will ultimately be an anomaly and it will win Best Actress and that'll be it. Or Actress will go to Riva and then they'll give Russell Screenplay. Either way, SLP feels like an one Oscar film to me.

[City Lights]

Yeah I said 'suck it SLP'. I think it was after they lost SAG ensemble. I don't like the film. It isn't a secret. You on the other hand is a JLaw cult member. I thought it was one of your posts criticising Lawrence to prove you're somewhat objective.

I'm not a "JLaw cult member." Hell, if you have perfectly legitimate criticisms of SLP or any of the actors in the film, I'd gladly read it and may even agree with some of them! But all you have done is pipe about SLP sucking, railing on Jennifer Lawrence for no legitimate reason, and spewing hatred towards anyone posting anything remotely positive or in defense of the actress. You're obsessed with hating on the film and its actors. Move on to something interesting -- that was the point of my post linking to your admission of hatred.

If you don't have anything else to say, then troll away in the Silver Linings Playbook review thread, but for the love of god, stop ramming your opinion down someone else's throat as if it's the right opinion. Stop attacking other users if they speak up about unwarranted and inappropriate commentary.

[Addison de Witt]

Yeah I said 'suck it SLP'. I think it was after they lost SAG ensemble. I don't like the film. It isn't a secret. You on the other hand is a JLaw cult member. I thought it was one of your posts criticising Lawrence to prove you're somewhat objective.

Lol, again with the "Jlaw cult member"? She even didn't get a Inoca nomination

[predatory_predictor]

I'm not a "JLaw cult member." Hell, if you have perfectly legitimate criticisms of SLP or any of the actors in the film, I'd gladly read it and may even agree with some of them! But all you have done is pipe about SLP sucking, railing on Jennifer Lawrence for no legitimate reason, and spewing hatred towards anyone posting anything remotely positive or in defense of the actress. You're obsessed with hating on the film and its actors. Move on to something interesting -- that was the point of my post linking to your admission of hatred.

If you don't have anything else to say, then troll away in the Silver Linings Playbook review thread, but for the love of god, stop ramming your opinion down someone else's throat as if it's the right opinion. Stop attacking other users if they speak up about unwarranted and inappropriate commentary.

Whenever somebody suggests someone else other than Lawrence might win, they get ridiculed, harrassed and asked to 'prove' their opinion. That is the root of this discussion. I think people should be allowed to share their opinion without being bullied by the 'veteran' posters. Quit telling me what or where to post. You don't have to read my posts. There is an ignore option for that purpose.

[City Lights]

Whenever somebody suggests someone else other than Lawrence might win, they get ridiculed, harrassed and asked to 'prove' their opinion. That is the root of this discussion. I think people should be allowed to share their opinion without being bullied at by the 'veteran' posters. Quit telling me what or where to post. You don't have to read my posts. There is an ignore option for that purpose.

And this relates to me how?

It doesn't. I haven't bullied you for arguing someone else is going to win, nor have I bullied anyone about that. As for the other members? Well, I haven't seen "bullying," but I think it helps to keep in mind that this is a forum about predicting Oscars and discussing film. If you are willing to throw out predictions, you should be more than able to back them up with reasoning.

[ladylurks]

I won't be surprised if Riva wins the Oscar. It's the type of impeccable performance that the Academy often ignores but I'm thinking that since there's no surprise in Best Actor or Best Supporting Actress, a lot of actors are going to vote unpredictably and choose Riva.

Well, now that she's won BAFTA and ICS, Riva is obviously on a roll.

[bosk]

You on the other hand is a JLaw cult member.

What does this even mean?

[HoneyDarling]

Lol, again with the "Jlaw cult member"? She even didn't get a Inoca nomination

[predatory_predictor]

Off-topic but is there thread here or a website (other than Wikipedia) that lists all the winners of the major precursors for each year? I'm asking because I want to see the 'real' winners. Affleck for instance is the real best director winner of this year regardless of who wins the Oscar. He won everything. Like Brokeback Mountain, Day-Lewis for Gangs etc.

[erikdean]

Off-topic but is there thread here or a website (other than Wikipedia) that lists all the winners of the major precursors for each year? I'm asking because I want to see the 'real' winners. Affleck for instance is the real best director winner of this year regardless of who wins the Oscar. He won everything. Like Brokeback Mountain, Day-Lewis for Gangs etc.

Sijmen's.

[daveylow]

I hope every year is like this one!!!

And Lawrence will not lose the Oscar. Still, Picture/Director/Adapted Screenplay/Sup. Actor/Score are wide open with up to three or even four possible winners in each category. That's pretty awesome.

Picture is no longer wide open. The door is shut for Argo to win.

[daveylow]

Does everyone think Spielberg is winning director? Does Ang Lee have a chance?

[ladylurks]

I think even Michael Haneke has a chance. It's such an odd year. Affleck and Bigelow won nearly all the precursors, and neither was nominated.

[guido]

Lincoln is going to win Best Supporting Actor too.

Although I'm still crossing my fingers that Bradley Cooper pulls an Adrien Brody!

I believe he absolutely will! :standingovation:

Even if Affleck were nominated, there are still races in Actress, Supporting Actor and Adapted Screenplay. When was the last time three major categories were 'open' at this point?

There is no race in Best Actress. Seriously.

[Silentiger]

Bradley Cooper gave a beautiful performance. I think it's great that he and the world discovered he had it in him and hopefully he will follow it with many great performances. That said, if he wins it will be a tragedy of epic proportions. Actor is one of the few categories where the best of the year is still often rewarded. Daniel Day Lewis, regardless of general fatigue of seeing him win, is still the best actor of the year. The absolute best actor will win all the awards! It's just how it's supposed to work. The man is an acting genius. Give him his multiple oscars and let's all be thankful for him. none of the bradley cooper nonsense.

[McTeague]

What I don’t get about moviefreak’s reasoning is that, as minimal as SLP’s victories are, they’re still more than what any other movie has, save Argo. Lincoln was also supposed to win SAG ensemble, and it didn’t. Lincoln was supposed to sweep screenplay awards and it has lost Globe, Scripters and BAFTA (not to mention it hasn’t remotely swept with critics either). Lincoln was supposed to get a director win somewhere and it hasn’t (even at critics awards, he hasn’t even been in the Top 3 conversation, not even in NY which was Lincoln’s biggest success). Meanwhile, SLP keeps getting unexpected extra love here and there: an unexpected 8 nominations overhaul at Oscars, an unexpected screenplay win at BAFTA, not to mention an unexpected critics run (who predicted it win that much at NBR or Lawrence to tie Riva at LAFCA?). It’s steadily overperforming (save at SAG) whereas Lincoln is constantly underperforming.

So really, it’s logical to expect some sort of overperformance, especially at AMPAS where it has overperformed the most, and where Russell has a previous nod and is the most wanted director in town (by actors at least). So, it’s not crazy to expect a Russell win, and it’s not crazy to expect a screenplay upset (although I still think Argo will prevail). With those two + actress being strong possibilities, I don’t know why people are so hesitant to conclude it looks like Argo’s main rival. It’s certainly likelier than Lincoln, which has steadily underperformed.

[just me]

Russell won't win the oscar without a SLP upset, imo. And at this point that one feels imposible. Spielberg will take this one by default unless La Wallis and his director pull surprise wins.

[McTeague]

Russell won't win the oscar without a SLP upset, imo. And at this point that one feels imposible. Spielberg will take this one by default

Like, why. Lincoln has underperformed much more than SLP.

[just me]

Based on his name and lazy vote. And DDL and TLJ seem unbeatable. And I still have faith in Kushner. SLP might have overperformed nomination wise, but Lincoln hasn't underperform at all. Who knows, but Spielberg himself give his movie the edge in my book. But, well, never undestimate Harvey's secret powers.

[McTeague]

Lincoln hasn't underperform at all.

It was expected to sweep screenplay awards and it has won... BFCA. It was expected to win ensemble awards and it has won... zero. TLJ has just won SAG. How hasn't it underperformed? It's biggest win outside DDL is a BFCA screenplay win. Like, who cares about Lincoln? It's been such an obvious also-run all season. Even at NYFCC, where it won three big awards, it didn't make the top 3 for director or picture. Nobody cares for it as a movie.