Right, but Argo did. Which is the obvious frontrunner.Originally Posted by Dr_Dmitri-Yuriev
Right, but Argo did. Which is the obvious frontrunner.
Well, why is Lincoln second? ... yeah.
That's what we're currently stuck with.
Because it got literally every nomination it possibly could have, AMPAS liked it more than anyone. Also, are you seriously using losing to Argo as logic? Nothing is beating Argo anywhere right now. It was a mild surprise at the time, but now it makes perfect sense. Plus, SLP just became the first film to beat Argo for a major award where Argo was the favorite heading into the night. This Indicates that their may be a minor pushback to Argo and that SLP may be the beneficary. Now I'm not saying it will win BP because it wont, but SLP winning Screenplay in a field where 3 out of the other 4 nominees were BP Nominees there is a bigger deal than some are giving it credit for. Even Russell said he kept saying to Lawrence 'Argo, Argo, Argo' during the show in a Post Cermony interview. Lincoln can't seem to win shit at these things aside from DDL.
While I think it would be cool to have David O. Russell be an Oscar winner, I think his work in The Fighter was a far, far, far greater directorial achievement.
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How is Russell winning this poll? Because he won the Screenplay BAFTA yesterday? Because SLP got 8 nominations? The film has lost every major category its been nominated in at every awards show except for Best Actress (Globe/SAG, lost the real BFCA category to Chastain and BAFTA to Riva) and now 1 Screenplay win!! Weird...
Spielberg's film has the most nominations and is admired, but bottom line, HE'S FUCKING STEVEN SPIELBERG!! Haha. I don't think voters will think that long and hard in this category and just check off Spielberg because he's the most obvious choice. Unless, they think about it and vote for...
Ang Lee, who most recognize had the hardest task, but managed to make the most directorially (is that a word?? ;D) accomplished film of the year.
I'm utterly confused as to how Russell figures into this race, especially to such a massive degree to all of you...
I would agree with you about Spielberg, if it wasn't losing everything except Actor. Where's the passion? The nomination overhaul for SLP indicates there is some within AMPAS and a lot of it. And Lawrence only lost at BFCA cause they gave her 3 other awards,How is Russell winning this poll? Because he won the Screenplay BAFTA yesterday? Because SLP got 8 nominations? The film has lost every major category its been nominated in at every awards show except for Best Actress (Globe/SAG, lost the real BFCA category to Chastain and BAFTA to Riva) and now 1 Screenplay win!! Weird...
Spielberg's film has the most nominations and is admired, but bottom line, HE'S FUCKING STEVEN SPIELBERG!! Haha. I don't think voters will think that long and hard in this category and just check off Spielberg because he's the most obvious choice. Unless, they think about it and vote for...
Ang Lee, who most recognize had the hardest task, but managed to make the most directorially (is that a word?? ;D) accomplished film of the year.
I'm utterly confused as to how Russell figures into this race, especially to such a massive degree to all of you...
12 nominations would indicate passion, but I think admiration is the right word. I just feel like the passion SLP might have is being overstated a bit.
Actress and Screenplay I can see. Maybe even Supporting Actor.
But Best Director over Spielberg and Lee seems crazy!
But 12 nominations was pretty much expected? Most were expecting SLP to max out at 5 after DGA and BAFTA with Pic, Actor, Actress, Supp Actor and Screenplay, a lot even thought De Niro would miss the day before nominations. And then, bam, all of that, plus Director, Supporting Actress and Editing. Not only did it get 8 nominations, it's in the 8 most important categories. That's a thing.
I think what YOU'RE underestimating is Weinstein's main play here:
'I made this movie for my son'.
I don't think he's winning, but he's ahead of Lee now and in 2nd as an upset threat.
There was just a commercial during The Daily Show for Life of Pi that was basically a For Your Consideration ad for Ang Lee.
All of this. The direction and editing noms for SLP speak volumes. It obviously wasn't going to contend for make-up, art direction, cinematography, score, etc. And Weaver's inclusion shows MAJOR support.
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I don't know. But with Affleck absent, I think voters are just going to vote for Spielberg by default (just for his name alone
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I don't know. But with Affleck absent, I think voters are just going to vote for Spielberg by default (just for his name alone
Keep in mind his "name" won't be on the ballot. They'll only be looking at the titles of the films nommed for Direction and voting based on what those titles conjure up in their minds. Yes, they're all aware of who made Lincoln (I hope so, at least), but they won't have STEVEN SPIELBERG staring them down, daring to give it to someone else.
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I've been predicting Russell consistently since the nominations so no, it's not just the BAFTAs. His is the one film in the category that is at the peak of its buzz right now, he's the one director heavily campaigning for it, he's the only non left-field option here who hasn't won, plus he has a previous nomination and is a well known/respected American director. He's also cleaned up his act a lot in recent years and any time you stick a microphone in front of him or anyone involved with the film they go on about what a "personal" project this was for him.How is Russell winning this poll? Because he won the Screenplay BAFTA yesterday? Because SLP got 8 nominations? The film has lost every major category its been nominated in at every awards show except for Best Actress (Globe/SAG, lost the real BFCA category to Chastain and BAFTA to Riva) and now 1 Screenplay win!! Weird...
Spielberg's film has the most nominations and is admired, but bottom line, HE'S FUCKING STEVEN SPIELBERG!! Haha. I don't think voters will think that long and hard in this category and just check off Spielberg because he's the most obvious choice. Unless, they think about it and vote for...
Ang Lee, who most recognize had the hardest task, but managed to make the most directorially (is that a word?? ;D) accomplished film of the year.
I'm utterly confused as to how Russell figures into this race, especially to such a massive degree to all of you...
He has 7 acting nominations for his last two films alone which Mike Nichols managed the year he won in a split.
The precursors mean nothing here, none of Globe/DGA/BAFTA went better than 2/5 and the guy who's winning all of them is snubbed. It's totally up to the Academy on this one and the film that overperformed the hardest here was SLP. I'm sure they want to give Russell something, even the BAFTAs did, and right now Director makes as much sense given how open it is.
What is the rationale for still predicting Spielberg? His film has the most nominations? That's been true at every awards show so far... how is that working out for the film? He has two Oscars already and if Russell's drawback is that his film is not a traditional director's vehicle this is also true of Spielberg.
So, in other words, it’s in the same situation as Lincoln, Life of Pi, Amour and Beasts of the Southern Wild! Only, with a best screenplay award, unlike Lincoln, Pi, Amour and Beasts. LOL, do you realise what you say about SLP applies to all the other films nominated for Best Director as well? All of them have “lost every major category it’s been nominated in at every awards show except for acting category X”. None of them have won a single Best Picture or Best Director awards. Affleck and Argo have swept them all.
But on top of that, Lincoln keeps loosing screenplay awards left and right despite being the category it was supposed to be stronger (other than Best Actor). There you have the one sign we have that Lincoln is weakening by the hour.
You know, in a year in which none of the Best Director nominees, or their films, have won a single precursor, we have to go by other signs. And being the actors’ favourite film (after Argo we may guess) and being one of two frontrunners for the screenplay award (with Argo), I think we have enough reasons to consider Russell a logical default winner. Is his win a sure thing? No, but it’s not crazy so don’t act like we’re suddenly nuts.
ETA: Oh, and Russell is a previous nominee and someone actors are dying to work with. Actors adored The Fighter and they now adore SLP. I guess only Lily Tomlin has a grudge against him.
I wonder how whoever actually wins this is going to feel considering they'd know they were just a default winner and Affleck woulda wiped the floor with all of 'em. I can't shake that it ALMOST feels like an asterisk situation
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Ask yourself this question
What would grandpa do?
Since the median age of an Oscar voter is an AARP member and they can't vote their favorite film Argo in this category they will go for the exotic family friendly film based on the book they probably read .
My vote is Life Of Pi
Althought I think SLP and Amour are plausable as well
Spielberg and Zeitlin one of you is too soon the other people do not feel like rewarding again.
Haneke or Zeitlin.
What the hell...
I'm sure they'll feel just fine about winning the OscarI wonder how whoever actually wins this is going to feel considering they'd know they were just a default winner and Affleck woulda wiped the floor with all of 'em. I can't shake that it ALMOST feels like an asterisk situation
Plus, the directors neglected to nominate Affleck, so it would seem they weren't too smitten with his work. So, whoever wins can remind himself of that fact -- You gotta first have the love of your branch (nomination) before you can get the love from the whole Academy (win), and Affleck missed the first part.
this.I'm sure they'll feel just fine about winning the Oscar
Plus, the directors neglected to nominate Affleck, so it would seem they weren't too smitten with his work. So, whoever wins can remind himself of that fact -- You gotta first have the love of your branch (nomination) before you can get the love from the whole Academy (win), and Affleck missed the first part.
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I still say its between Lee and Spielberg based on the nomination tally of their films, name of director and their films being grander directorial efforts. I think Russell will lose some votes due to his disrespectful display at BAFTA during Riva's win and the lack of support from DGA, Globe and BAFTA in director.
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