Russell Crowe too.Originally Posted by Rage Colored Glasses
Russell Crowe too.
Spencer Tracy (San Francisco, Captains Corageous, Boys Town)
Gary Cooper (Sargeant York, The Pride of the Yankees, For Whom the Bell Tolls)
If you want to expand to Actress, you also have Greer Garson (Blossoms in the Dust, Mrs. Miniver, Madame Curie) and Bette Davis (Jezebel, Dark Victory, The Letter, The Little Foxes).
Also: when Anne Hathaway wins, 2008's Best Actress lineup will join the list of acting lineups fully consisting of Oscar winners (Streep, Winslet, Jolie, Leogend).
Asian? Two time nominee and one time winner, Natalie Portman is of Asian birth, having been born in Israel (which is in Asia)... and, I believe, having one parent who was Israeli . Is she not Asian?
...watching in the dark...
She's Asian the same way Nicole Kidman is American and the Havillands are British, I guess.Born, but not bred there.
I don't think there are any Israeli-born Americans who would enter "Asian" on their census form.
Interesting point. Ethnically, Portman is half-Israeli, and Israel is obviously in Asia, so describing her as half-Asian is technically not incorrect. But of course, colloquially, I don't think anyone would use the adjective "Asian" to describe Israelis (especially since Israel was explicitly formed as a homeland for persecuted Jews, most of whom came from Europe). But, if one were to actually think about "what does it mean to be 'Asian'?", there is really no single answer, because of how diverse the countries of Asia are. A man who is ethnically Saudi Arabian is obviously going to look different from a man who is ethnically Russian vs one who is ethnically Chinese vs Indian. But, in the most literal sense, these are all Asians. Essentially, I think that, today, in general conversation, there's this spectrum of "Asian-ness". "East Asians" (another somewhat ambiguous term, but generally Chinese, Japanese, Korean...) seem to typically be what come to mind when someone says "Asian", followed perhaps by people from "Southeast" Asia (e.g. Thai), "South" Asia (e.g. Indian)...etc. Russians and Israelis probably come in last in this spectrum of "Asian-ness", and they themselves may not even identify as Asians (especially people from Russia, since it's partially in eastern Europe), but this doesn't necessarily mean that they are any less "Asian" than, say, a Chinese person.
(Sorry, I love discourse about geography and race.)
In this matter, I think the question is whether Portman and/or Asia consider her Asian. I don't think they do.
This all sounds like a nefarious plan to bring 'Oriental' back into the lexicon.
Never!This all sounds like a nefarious plan to bring 'Oriental' back into the lexicon.
This all sounds like a nefarious plan to bring 'Oriental' back into the lexicon.
The de Havilland girls were born in Edo, Japan.
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FYC Oscar consideration, Miss Sally Field, as Mary Todd Lincoln
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/orientalThe de Havilland girls were born in Edo, Japan.
I can't use Oriental?!?This is the same nonsense as Mumbai instead of Bombay or Harare instead of Salisbury, isn't it?
o·ri·en·tal (ôr-ntl, r-)
adj.
1. often Oriental Of or relating to the countries of the Orient or their peoples or cultures; eastern.
2. Oriental Of or designating the biogeographic region that includes Asia south of the Himalaya Mountains and the islands of the Malay Archipelago.
3. Lustrous and valuable: oriental pearls.
4.
a. Of or relating to a genuine or superior gem: an oriental ruby.
b. Relating to or designating corundum that resembles another stone in color.
n.
often Oriental Often Offensive An Asian.
ori·ental·ly adv.
Usage Note: Asian is now strongly preferred in place of Oriental for persons native to Asia or descended from an Asian people. The usual objection to Oriental meaning "eastern" is that it identifies Asian countries and peoples in terms of their location relative to Europe. However, this objection is not generally made of other Eurocentric terms such as Near and Middle Eastern. The real problem with Oriental is more likely its connotations stemming from an earlier era when Europeans viewed the regions east of the Mediterranean as exotic lands full of romance and intrigue, the home of despotic empires and inscrutable customs. At the least these associations can give Oriental a dated feel, and as a noun in contemporary contexts (as in the first Oriental to be elected from the district) it is now widely taken to be offensive. However, Oriental should not be thought of as an ethnic slur to be avoided in all situations. As with Asiatic, its use other than as an ethnonym, in phrases such as Oriental cuisine or Oriental medicine, is not usually considered objectionable.
An interesting fact just crossed my mind: for four consecutive years, the Best Picture winner had a SAG Supporting Actor nominee snubbed at the Oscars (Don Cheadle in 2005, Leonardo DiCaprio in 2006, Tommy Lee Jones in 2007, Dev Patel in 2008).
I know I've got a big ego, I really don't know why it's such a big deal, though.
^ It also made up a four year stretch of BP winners not having any lead acting nominations, which might be the record?
10 most impressive female directors so far:
Kathryn Bigelow - Director winner
Jane Campion - Director/T5 Pic nominee, Acting wins
Randa Haines - T5 Pic nominee, Acting win
Sofia Coppola - Director/T5 Pic nominee
Lina Wertmuller - Director nominee
Penny Marshall/Barbara Streisand - T5 Pic nominee & Patty Jenkins/Kimberly Pierce/Phyllida Lloyd - Acting win
Ang Lee - The only 2x Bafta/DGA/Oscar-Winning Director!
Meryl on Oscars: Y’see these little babies? These are my best f***ing friends
and they never let me down. Try to get ‘em away from me and I’ll eat you alive.
Shameful that Randa Haines and Phyllida Lloyd are on such a list.
Poor Lone Scherfig. Just outside the top ten!
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