Box Office Thread: Well, Bigelow can always still win the weekend...

[Artimus]

Figure out wat ?

That becoming a film snob with strong views on art and all is part of growing up ???

The horror ...

No, that people are people. There are different kinds but they're not determined by geography anymore than they are skin colour, etc.

18 year olds still know this, right?

[Triviachamp]

Wong Kar Wai has the same issues in Hong Kong that American directors like Wes Anderson or Spike Jonze have.

This. A lot of people don't seem to realize that foreign art films are usually not very commercially successful in their home countries either. The highest grossing films are usually American and their home grown hits are usually not very High Art. Certainly they aren't the ones that are sent to art houses in the US.

[guany]

Answer me this:

Is there any other SINGLE country in the world where the movie grossed more than 50 million?

Nope.

No reason to feel so special.

No, what is ridiculous is the American entitlement, not realizing dreck like Hensel & Gretel does better overseas because there are about 60+ territories in which to make cash.

Yet you idiots come to message boards and say, "Look those dumbass foreigners giving a lot of money to the worst pieces of shit WE make"!

Yes, 2012 made 600 million+ outside the US... In dozens of countries. Yet it grossed 160 million+ on USA alone.

Hipocritical much?

Thanks for not saying anything relevant to the discussion.

And shut up yourself.

Your head is so far up your filthy asshole you don't even realize any non-American poster can legitimately ask the same question.



Only a bigger dumbass would miss the xenophobic statements that stirred up this shit.

Fuck this shit.

I don't need to read illogical anti-foreign remarks and then be ordered to keep quiet about it.

So what if the US has a 360 million population? Is that supposed to be an excuse for being the country where most of the bombs have the highest gross (and where they are produced!) - your country is the biggest market? How does that make you have the better global taste (and how can such a thing be measured, anyway)?

[danielvin]

I'm so curious to see how much money Spring Breakers will make domestically. It's time for Megan Ellison to make some cash off the bold choises she's made..

[DirkDiggler]

Heh. I imagine when Dirk sees Spring Breakers in theaters, he'll be secretly Dirkin' it.

I saw it 6 months ago...

[hickoryduck]

Fuck this shit.

I don't need to read illogical anti-foreign remarks and then be ordered to keep quiet about it.

So what if the US has a 360 million population? Is that supposed to be an excuse for being the country where most of the bombs have the highest gross (and where they are produced!) - your country is the biggest market? How does that make you have the better global taste (and how can such a thing be measured, anyway)?

Damn dude, you need a nap.

I don't see Spring Breakers going very far. It'll probably be Korine's biggest movie, due to all the Selena Gomez fans who will hand over their parents cash and be traumatized forever, but beyond that, it seems too trashy.

[Bean]

Didn't Ellison make a good deal of profit off Lawless and Zero Dark Thirty? The Master and Killing Me Softly whiffed, but she has had successes.

[Howard Beale's Toothpaste]

Well, and there's the assumption she's only partly in it for the money if at all. The Master was NEVER going to make money, it really took someone like Ellison willing to take a hit on it because they believed in it artistically.

[coldmess]

Spring Breakers had a $2 million budget so I don't think Ellison will have any problem making her money back. This is going to outgross all of Korine's films combined!

[Jonathan]

Steve Carell better hope Foxcatcher hits big, because his career is about to be kaput.

I think Carell will be fine. Considering this also had Jim Carrey, I think it's going to be written off as not much more than a predestined flop of suckiness. He'll be fine. That said, I don't expect Foxcatcher to be much of a box office hit, but being a "comic-turned-serious" film it just needs good reviews probably to be a success.

Answer me this:

Is there any other SINGLE country in the world where the movie grossed more than 50 million?

Nope.

No reason to feel so special.

There's been two pages of angry debate already, but I will point this out: H&G is the 7th highest-grossing movie of 2013 so far in the US, but internationally it's one of only two movies this year to pass $150 million (Soon Oz will be the third). On a larger scale, H&G ranks at #1,186 on the US all time domestic chart, but in international grosses it already ranks #335. The point being: measured relative to the grosses of movies in different parts of the world, H&G is a modest-for-January success, but outside the US it's been a straight-up major hit. If there somehow is a sequel it won't be because it made the most money in the US.

I'm so curious to see how much money Spring Breakers will make domestically. It's time for Megan Ellison to make some cash off the bold choises she's made..

It'll be an interesting run to watch. This weekend's PTA was the 10th best of all time for a live-action film (The best since The Master, actually), and buzz seems high among younger audiences (It already had almost 370,000 fans on Facebook), but I imagine the actual product is going to be very alienating to mainstream audiences, and it will crash and burn after next week's expansion. Still, it should end up being profitable - I see a ~$3 million gross next weekend with a $6-8 million final total, and it looks like it'll be doing well overseas (It had a $2.1 million opening in France last weekend!). As Bean already said though ZDT has turned a profit (It cost only $42 million to make) and Lawless should break even, so I don't think we have to worry about Ellison closing shop for at least a couple years.

[Jonathan]

Spring Breakers had a $2 million budget so I don't think Ellison will have any problem making her money back. This is going to outgross all of Korine's films combined!

It might actually do that before it even goes wide on Friday:

Gummo - $116,799
Julien Donkey-Boy - $85,400
Mister Lonely - $167,396
Trash Humpers - $21,826 (BOM doesn't even have a page for this )

Total: $391,421

[Jonathan]

Spring Breakers' estimated theater cont for next weekend has been bumped from 600+ to 1,000+. Talk about confidence.

[Bean]

That article about Ellison's supposed falling out with Weinstein and "rebellious" temperament said Lawless made a lot of money for Weinstein and Ellison. BOM/Wikipedia shows a budget of $45 million with a worldwide gross of $53 million, though I have no idea how much it made on home release (does anyone release those numbers?)

[Jonathan]

That article about Ellison's supposed falling out with Weinstein and "rebellious" temperament said Lawless made a lot of money for Weinstein and Ellison. BOM/Wikipedia shows a budget of $45 million with a worldwide gross of $53 million, though I have no idea how much it made on home release (does anyone release those numbers?)

There have been attempts at figuring out home release numbers, but most of them are apparently very inaccurate. But Lawless seems like the kind of movie that would do very well in rentals/VOD (Films that appeal to older men like westerns/period gangster flicks usually do). Do you have a link to that article?

[erikdean]

Spring Breakers' estimated theater cont for next weekend has been bumped from 600+ to 1,000+. Talk about confidence.

Whoa. I don't know if that's a good idea, it's still a fringe movie. I guess they think spring breakers will blindly see it or something.

[Critix]

Whoa. I don't know if that's a good idea, it's still a fringe movie. I guess they think spring breakers will blindly see it or something.

LOL, yes. This will not have a good WOM, so it makes sense to get this on as many screens as early as possible.

[Jonathan]

Whoa. I don't know if that's a good idea, it's still a fringe movie. I guess they think spring breakers will blindly see it or something.

Considering Korine has never even been an art house draw (Seriously, look at those grosses for his previous films), I'm guessing that's most of what's driving the success in NY and LA (Combined with the sex appeal of all the T&A on display through all the marketing). As I said earlier the actual film is probably going to be too weird for most mainstream audiences, so if they go wide as quickly as possible they can probably hope to get as many people out as possible before sour WOM gets out (I'll be shocked if the movie drops less than -60% the weekend after going wide). With 1,000+ theaters I could see $4-5 million and a $8-11 million total.

[erikdean]

Considering Korine has never even been an art house draw (Seriously, look at those grosses for his previous films), I'm guessing that's most of what's driving the success in NY and LA (Combined with the sex appeal of all the T&A on display through all the marketing). As I said earlier the actual film is probably going to be too weird for most mainstream audiences, so if they go wide as quickly as possible they can probably hope to get as many people out as possible before sour WOM gets out (I'll be shocked if the movie drops less than -60% the weekend after going wide). With 1,000+ theaters I could see $4-5 million and a $8-11 million total.

That would be beyond crazy lol.

Ugh, I hope this doesn't create actual buzz for James Franco lol.

[Jonathan]

That would be beyond crazy lol.

Ugh, I hope this doesn't create actual buzz for James Franco lol.

If Nicole Kidman for The Paperboy couldn't happen even with SAG and the Globes backing her up (And a director with previous Oscar success), Franco will never in a million years happen.

[erikdean]

If Nicole Kidman for The Paperboy couldn't happen even with SAG and the Globes backing her up (And a director with previous Oscar success), Franco will never in a million years happen.

Yeah, I guess it would fall somewhere in between Kidman for Paperboy and McConaughey for MM. But neither of those panned out so...