Box Office Thread: Well, Bigelow can always still win the weekend...

[clearwatergirl]

The blind side made nothing overseas, it was a pure u.s. Phenomenon. And you could say it eas based on a popular book, too.

Anyway, j.law appears to be the new julia roberts, so she might lose out on her second oscar nom. At the same time, if she does win, i fear the oscar curse might hit her, i mean she is good, but not exceptional.

I don't think most audiences even knew it was based off of a book. It was by no means a guaranteed box office success if that's what you're implying. I don't care about Jennifer Lawrence but why does JJJ always insist on comparing her to Sandra?

[jjj]

"Tearing" someone down usually involves insults. Saying that Lawrence's movies did better overall is a factual comparison, not an insult.

Like if I say Helen Hunt has a million more major awards than Elisabeth Moss or Michelle Williams, I'm not tearing the latter two down; I'm stating a fact.

[clearwatergirl]

"Tearing" someone down usually involves insults. Saying that Lawrence's movies did better overall is a factual comparison, not an insult.

Like if I say Helen Hunt has a million more major awards than Elisabeth Moss or Michelle Williams, I'm not tearing the latter two down; I'm stating a fact.

What I'm saying is that there's no need for the comparisons. Jennifer's accomplishments are impressive enough to stand on their own and you should be able to enjoy that without always bringing other actors into the equation. It doesn't make her look better, it just makes you look ridiculous.

[RRA]

Unsurprisingly, BULLET TO THE HEAD is living up its title financially as the same with THE LAST STAND.

Too bad.

[Blasty]

LOL I mean Stallone and Auhnold's movies were starting to struggle as far back as the mid '90s even and were on the wane - and that was like 20 years ago and you could see the writing on the wall for their careers, why on earth anyone would think they could really propel themselves back as action film headliners now, I'll never know. And man, I grew up on their films in the '80s, RRA - I'll defend crap like Red Sonja and Cobra but those days are long gone.

[BTN]

Bullet to the head is very Steven Seagal.

[Shy_Hallaman]

Lawrence couldn't even manage double Golden Globe nominations.

I'm sure the whole world is destroyed deep inside because of that.

[Matt24]

I'm sure the whole world is destroyed deep inside because of that.

[RRA]

LOL I mean Stallone and Auhnold's movies were starting to struggle as far back as the mid '90s even and were on the wane - and that was like 20 years ago and you could see the writing on the wall for their careers, why on earth anyone would think they could really propel themselves back as action film headliners now, I'll never know. And man, I grew up on their films in the '80s, RRA - I'll defend crap like Red Sonja and Cobra but those days are long gone.

I guess after EXPENDABLES Hollywood thought there was some gas left in those huge steroid-aided biceps, when EXPENDABLES was more a nostalgia-powered version of those doo wop, goldie oldies package tours. Also I guess I'm disapointed by the box-office totals because both LAST STAND and BULLET TO THE HEAD, I actually kinda enjoyed both.

But what disturbs me isn't just that their time is over since God knows I'm not nostalgic blinded. But this is another R-rated actioneer flop. That rating is almost a death sentence for that genre in wide-release anymore. Exceptions in recent years would be what, the KILL BILL movies? (Would people classify DJANGO as action?) Maybe I'm overreacting since I'm sure the new DIE HARD will do good because that franchise is durable.

I mean more and more it seems the only action movies we get from Hollywood are PG-13 comic book movies and spy thrillers (shakey cam possible in some of them), and I don't like that. I like alot of those movies too mind you, but I want a buffet with my action. Sometimes I don't just want Batman beating up thugs or James Bond just kill them clean, I want their heads blown off along with gratuitous profanity and nudity, and explosions of course.

(If you're a R-rated comic book action movie, you're in trouble. See DREDD and PUNISHER: WAR ZONE, etc. The exception would be SIN CITY, if one wants to call that one an "action" movie. And I don't honestly.)

EDIT - Huh, the irony. Turns out BULLET TO THE HEAD was based off a French graphic novel. And Thomas Jane's THE PUNISHER (not to be confused with Dolph Lundgren's THE PUNISHER) actually did $100 million worldiwde back in the day.

Bullet to the head is very Steven Seagal.

Look at some Seagal movie titles:

HARD TO KILL
ABOVE THE LAW
PISTOL WHIPPED
KILL SWITCH
OUT FOR JUSTICE
BORN TO RAISE HELL
EXIT WOUNDS
URBAN JUSTICE
UNDER SIEGE
A DANGEROUS MAN
DRIVEN TO KILL
BELLY OF THE BEAST
ON DEADLY GROUND

Holy shit, you're right!

Fun Fact: BULLET TO THE HEAD was shot under the title HEADSHOT but changed by the studio in post-production.

[Michael_Bay]

Lawrence is SaBu all over again, except, you know, deserving.

The truth is so beautiful.

[RRA]

Honestly with AD as it is, I'm surprised I wasn't run out of town for comparing Lawrence to Streep.

[Blasty]

I missed that post, RRA. But LMAO. I would anoint Chastain as heir apparent to Queen Streep if I'd give anyone that probable kiss of death, to be honest. I don't really get comparing Lawrence to Streep, like at all, in terms of their styles or anything really. They're both blonde?

[RRA]

I missed that post, RRA. But LMAO. I would anoint Chastain as heir apparent to Queen Streep if I'd give anyone that probable kiss of death, to be honest. I don't really get comparing Lawrence to Streep, like at all, in terms of their styles or anything really. They're both blonde?

I was comparing J-Law to Streep only in that J-Law could become Streep-esque in both both a critics darling and have box-office hits, if she can keep up this success.

(or basically Amy Adams if Adams actually won awards, pretty much.)

[Sliced Peach]

I was comparing J-Law to Streep only in that J-Law could become Streep-esque in both both a critics darling and have box-office hits, if she can keep up this success.

(or basically Amy Adams if Adams actually won awards, pretty much.)

Well, Adams has been in box-office hits but she's never been a reason for them and she never will be.

[Blasty]

Eh, I think Lawrence would have had to win alot more critics awards en masse for that to really work - I mean, Streep swept for both Kramer vs. Kramer and Sophie's Choice and won at least 1 major critics award for nearly all her nominated performances from '78 to '88 (only Ironweed and Silkwood didn't net her anything huge)

But you know, it's actually interesting that you said box office hits for Streep because she isn't usually given credit for that in her early movies but of course The Deer Hunter and Kramer made major coinage, and another thing people don't realize but for challenging art films, both The French Lietentant's Woman and Sophie's Choice each had impressive box office runs for the time earning $26,890,068 and $30,036,000 respectively, and for early '80s, that's amazing and each even earned 5 Oscar nods in categories like screenplay. And of course she even had Julia to start with.

So, yeah, Chastain with The Help and Zero Dark Thirty and her awards won in back to back years and box office hits and her various characters the last few years being so different with several accents between them is the much more apt comparison to Streep.

[electric_storm]

I'm mostly happy for this SLP success for DOR and the leads. He'll be able to make whatever he wants next and they will have firmly established their non-franchise star power. Hopefully this gets "Serena" a distributor and a good release now.

[nadine]

I'm mostly happy for this SLP success for DOR and the leads. He'll be able to make whatever he wants next and they will have firmly established their non-franchise star power. Hopefully this gets "Serena" a distributor and a good release now.

Here here about Serena. I want StudioCanal to do some deals dammit.

[RRA]

Eh, I think Lawrence would have had to win alot more critics awards en masse for that to really work - I mean, Streep swept for both Kramer vs. Kramer and Sophie's Choice and won at least 1 major critics award for nearly all her nominated performances from '78 to '88 (only Ironweed and Silkwood didn't net her anything huge)

But you know, it's actually interesting that you said box office hits for Streep because she isn't usually given credit for that in her early movies but of course The Deer Hunter and Kramer made major coinage, and another thing people don't realize but for challenging art films, both The French Lietentant's Woman and Sophie's Choice each had impressive box office runs for the time earning $26,890,068 and $30,036,000 respectively, and for early '80s, that's amazing and each even earned 5 Oscar nods in categories like screenplay. And of course she even had Julia to start with.

So, yeah, Chastain with The Help and Zero Dark Thirty and her awards won in back to back years and box office hits and her various characters the last few years being so different with several accents between them is the much more apt comparison to Streep.

I'll consent and give you Chastain...if she wins the Oscar.

But J-Law will win it.

[CrazyKy]

I guess after EXPENDABLES Hollywood thought there was some gas left in those huge steroid-aided biceps, when EXPENDABLES was more a nostalgia-powered version of those doo wop, goldie oldies package tours. Also I guess I'm disapointed by the box-office totals because both LAST STAND and BULLET TO THE HEAD, I actually kinda enjoyed both.

But what disturbs me isn't just that their time is over since God knows I'm not nostalgic blinded. But this is another R-rated actioneer flop. That rating is almost a death sentence for that genre in wide-release anymore. Exceptions in recent years would be what, the KILL BILL movies? (Would people classify DJANGO as action?) Maybe I'm overreacting since I'm sure the new DIE HARD will do good because that franchise is durable.

I mean more and more it seems the only action movies we get from Hollywood are PG-13 comic book movies and spy thrillers (shakey cam possible in some of them), and I don't like that. I like alot of those movies too mind you, but I want a buffet with my action. Sometimes I don't just want Batman beating up thugs or James Bond just kill them clean, I want their heads blown off along with gratuitous profanity and nudity, and explosions of course.

(If you're a R-rated comic book action movie, you're in trouble. See DREDD and PUNISHER: WAR ZONE, etc. The exception would be SIN CITY, if one wants to call that one an "action" movie. And I don't honestly.)

EDIT - Huh, the irony. Turns out BULLET TO THE HEAD was based off a French graphic novel. And Thomas Jane's THE PUNISHER (not to be confused with Dolph Lundgren's THE PUNISHER) actually did $100 million worldiwde back in the day.



Look at some Seagal movie titles:

HARD TO KILL
ABOVE THE LAW
PISTOL WHIPPED
KILL SWITCH
OUT FOR JUSTICE
BORN TO RAISE HELL
EXIT WOUNDS
URBAN JUSTICE
UNDER SIEGE
A DANGEROUS MAN
DRIVEN TO KILL
BELLY OF THE BEAST
ON DEADLY GROUND

Holy shit, you're right!

Fun Fact: BULLET TO THE HEAD was shot under the title HEADSHOT but changed by the studio in post-production.

OMG. Those titles are killing me.

[clearwatergirl]

Weekend estimates

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/