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    This is really is one of the most beautiful songs of all time! He describes his life. If we had a chance to bring him back...

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    Ringo Starr will appear in the POWERPUFF GIRLS TV special out later this year.

    Also today (1/30) back in 1969, the Beatles played together for the last time in concert on top of their own Apple Corps building.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RRA View Post
    Potpouri, anything goes generalized thread for the Fab Four, pre and post split.

    Anyway this was published online the other day.

    Deep Cuts: Forgotten solo gems from the Beatles’ Ringo Starr

    http://somethingelsereviews.com/2012...s-ringo-starr/

    What comes to mind for me is that one track they didn't cite is one that I actually pick as among my favorite solo Beatle songs, top 10. I remember the old Beatles fan podcast Fab Fourum recommending it and I gave it a chance. Incredibly obscure, even among Beatles fans perhaps because this was released in the late 70s when Ringo's solo career was pretty much over and his label dropped him. For all the shit Ringo gets, I love this song.
    I haven't heard that in ages. Thank you. Used to own the LP. I actually had most of Ringo's solo albums which usually had collaborations from the other three making them mini-reunions of sorts.

    And re. McCartney's output previous to 1990, I won't bother saying "IMO" - I agree with you that his whole career is full of great songs. The bickering of Lennon fans vs McCartney is just plain silly. The Beatles would never have been what they were without ANY of the four. We certainly would not be still talking about them today if they had been driven solely by Paul or by John.

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    Spankox put a Remix EP for "Love Me Do," and only for sale in the UK apparently. The article about this release doesn't say it, but the fact that because of legality issues the song is now public domain in Europe is a major factor behind this. Allegedly the European Parliament or Union or whoever responsible for copyrights will fix that legal loophole this fall, but until then the Beatles aren't getting shit for this.

    Thoughts?

    http://wxrt.cbslocal.com/2013/02/01/...xed-remodeled/

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    I don't like this remix. Live forever original!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capt. January View Post
    I haven't heard that in ages. Thank you. Used to own the LP. I actually had most of Ringo's solo albums which usually had collaborations from the other three making them mini-reunions of sorts.
    Did you also own STOP AND SMELL THE ROSES? I remember finding that in a bargain bin for 3 bucks, and being pleasantly surprised by it. The two real stand-out tracks for me from it, which incidentally were written by other Beatles. (John was supposed to record tracks w/ Ringo too and even set aside a planned recording date: January 1981.)

    Written/Produced by Paul



    Written/Produced by George, and Ringo's last Top 40 hit.

    (NOTE: Now this song is criminally overlooked because let's admit that with the music video and the way Ringo performs it, just a cute novelty track right? Well not that simple. Go Google up the lyrics and wow, George is pissed. Clearly he was angry at his label refusing to release his stuff at the time. Quite possibly one of his best written tracks lyrically.)



    Quote Originally Posted by Capt. January View Post
    And re. McCartney's output previous to 1990, I won't bother saying "IMO" - I agree with you that his whole career is full of great songs. The bickering of Lennon fans vs McCartney is just plain silly. The Beatles would never have been what they were without ANY of the four. We certainly would not be still talking about them today if they had been driven solely by Paul or by John.
    From my experience, especially after exploring McCartney's vast catalogue, I find that his solo output is underrated (though not as badly as it used to be) while John's is (no fault of his own) overexposed and put on a ridiculous pedestal after he died (Rolling Stone is most obnoxious about this), which thankfully its not as bad as it used to be. Both suffer from their reputations which are exaggerated stereotypes that do both injustice. Both are equal in my mind.
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    One thing that links Lennon and McCartney, but distinguishes them from Harrison and Starr, is that the first two were driven men, the latter two not. That Lennon and McCartney were also superior songwriters (not an insult--over the last sixty years only Dylan can reasonably be mentioned in the same breath with them) is true, but not enough; John and Paul were literally driven to succeed. What drove them was different in some cases--Lennon's demons caused him to burn out in my opinion, though that does not preclude him from being able to recharge eventually, however rare such an event is--but these drives made them extremely difficult to work with at times. Though it also seems to have fueled their creativity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RRA View Post
    Did you also own STOP AND SMELL THE ROSES?
    Yes I did. It was the last Ringo vinyl I owned. I had "Ringo" and "Goodnight Vienna" (and have replaced them on CD) as well as "Rotogravure", Ringo the 4th" and "Bad Boy". I later picked up a "Time Takes Time" CD in a bargain bin, but I'm not too fond of that one. His albums were fun.

    I had everything McCartney I could lay my hands on and recently downloaded his entire discography including the classical records. I found 2011's Ocean's kingdom to be the best of these. The Liverpool Oratorio has it's moments and Kiri Te Kanawa, but I wasn't blown over by it.

    I've owned a couple of Harrison albums. "Extra Texture" and "Cloud 9" on vinyl and a greatest hits on cassette. The last time I looked, there wasn't a good Harrison anthology out on CD - I should take a second look.

    I own Lennon's "Legend" anthology on CD.

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    Paul recently wrote an Op-Ed over at Huffington Post.

    http://huff.to/WYuqgY
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capt. January View Post
    Yes I did. It was the last Ringo vinyl I owned. I had "Ringo" and "Goodnight Vienna" (and have replaced them on CD) as well as "Rotogravure", Ringo the 4th" and "Bad Boy". I later picked up a "Time Takes Time" CD in a bargain bin, but I'm not too fond of that one. His albums were fun.
    I know this will sound nuts, but one CD of his that I would actually recommend looking up was his Christmas album I WANNA BE SANTA CLAUS. I know that proposition sounds....disposable....but I surprisingly found myself enjoying it.

    http://www.allmusic.com/album/i-wann...s-mw0000671038

    Quote Originally Posted by Capt. January View Post

    I had everything McCartney I could lay my hands on and recently downloaded his entire discography including the classical records. I found 2011's Ocean's kingdom to be the best of these. The Liverpool Oratorio has it's moments and Kiri Te Kanawa, but I wasn't blown over by it.
    Even THRILLINGTON?

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    I've owned a couple of Harrison albums. "Extra Texture" and "Cloud 9" on vinyl and a greatest hits on cassette. The last time I looked, there wasn't a good Harrison anthology out on CD - I should take a second look.
    Unforutnately they haven't released one yet. Even stranger for whatever reason when the Harrison estate had all his solo albums remastered and re-released...except for DARK HORSE and EXTRA TEXTURE. Both in fact aren't even for sale in on-line digital stores. Strange really. Maybe they lost the negatives? It's odd.
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    50 years ago today (2/11), the Beatles recorded most of their debut album PLEASE PLEASE ME in less than 13 hours. (of the 14 album tracks, 10 were recorded that day. The other 4 had already been released as singles/B-sides.)
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    I usually don't care about Beatles offspring musical output, but I must say I actually liked this. (Too bad the movie it was composed for looks like shit.)


    "Never Too Late" - Song by the rock group Thenewno2 featuring Dhani Harrison, George's son. Taken from their soundtrack album composed for the 2013 movie BEAUTIFUL CREATURES. The track also features Liela Moss & Thorunn Antonia. Band members split writing/recording duties across the lead characters, Dhani telling Rolling Stone magazine: "I got the evil girls. I kind of fancied them at teh beginning. I was very adament about that - 'I want the most evil people in the film." Track released online for streaming on February 12, 2013. Song (and soundtrack) recorded at Abbey Road Studios.

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    That was surprisingly not bad at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RRA View Post
    I know this will sound nuts, but one CD of his that I would actually recommend looking up was his Christmas album I WANNA BE SANTA CLAUS. I know that proposition sounds....disposable....but I surprisingly found myself enjoying it.

    Even THRILLINGTON?

    Unforutnately they haven't released one yet. Even stranger for whatever reason when the Harrison estate had all his solo albums remastered and re-released...except for DARK HORSE and EXTRA TEXTURE. Both in fact aren't even for sale in on-line digital stores. Strange really. Maybe they lost the negatives? It's odd.
    I feel like I'm corresponding with you through old fashioned mail. "Weeks later I received another letter from RRA...". I've got to be a little more diligent following the threads where I participate.

    I had no idea Ringo had a Christmas album. I might actually add it to my Xmas collection. He seems just right for such a project.

    "Thrillington" was in the McCartney collection I downloaded. They did a very thorough job, including "The Country Hams" singles (if you know about Thrillington you know these jazzy versions of Paul's father's compositions Wings released under the Hams pseudonyms. I confess I didn't know about them or "Thrillington"). Anyway it wasn't 100% complete. The soundtrack for "The Family Way" was missing and maybe some of his experimental stuff (I know Liverpool Sound Collage was there but, quite frankly, I didn't bother keeping it).
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    Some news!

    Paul has revealed that for his new album out later this year that he's currently recording, he's worked with 4 different producers so far in Mark Ronson, Ethan Johns, Paul Epworth, and Giles Martin (George's son.)

    http://www.epiphone.com/News/Feature...is-Summer.aspx

    That is all. For now.

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    I feel like I'm corresponding with you through old fashioned mail. "Weeks later I received another letter from RRA...".
    With Kisses on the Bottom.

    (For all the crap Paul got for that title, I loved it. A very polite non-crass way of saying "Kiss My Ass," which seemed to be his attitude in response to fans baffled and not interested when that project was first announced.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Capt. January View Post
    I had no idea Ringo had a Christmas album. I might actually add it to my Xmas collection. He seems just right for such a project.
    Yeah its titled I WANNA BE SANTA CLAUS. Most notably that was the one where he re-recorded the Beatles' Xmas song "Christmas Time (is Here Again.)", of course calling that one a song is a stretch.

    Quote Originally Posted by Capt. January View Post
    "Thrillington" was in the McCartney collection I downloaded. They did a very thorough job, including "The Country Hams" singles (if you know about Thrillington you know these jazzy versions of Paul's father's compositions Wings released under the Hams pseudonyms. I confess I didn't know about them or "Thrillington"). Anyway it wasn't 100% complete. The soundtrack for "The Family Way" was missing and maybe some of his experimental stuff (I know Liverpool Sound Collage was there but, quite frankly, I didn't bother keeping it).
    I've heard about the Country Hams stuff but never explored it. THRILLINGTON is a cool little oddity. He could've just released an album with just the instrumentals from RAM, but no he hired an orchestra to re-create it instrumentally. Rather inspired.
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    Tony Sheridan has died at the age of 72. He was a popular local entertainer in Hamburg and for a 1961 recording session, he worked with the Beatles as his backing band on some tracks. (When the record was released in Germany, they were credited as "The Beat Brothers," because allegedly "Beatles" was deemed too similar to a German slang for penis.) The music was released originally in '62, but then re-released 2 years later to cash in on Beatlemania. "My Bonnie" charting #26 in America.

    Thus the only Beatles single to chart with a non-Beatle as the lead singer.

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    In my Top 10 George solo tracks list!

    "Dream Away" - Song on George Harrison's 1982 album GONE TROPPO. Composed specifically for Terry Gilliam's movie TIME BANDITS, which Harrison executive produced. Originally planned for release on the film's soundtrack album which never materialized. Background vocals by Syreeta, organ played by Billy Preston. Released as a single only in Japan in February 1983 with fellow TROPPO track "Unknown Delight" as B-side. In 2010, AOL Radio listeners voted this as one of George Harrison's 10 Best Solo songs at #8.

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    "Any Time at All" - Song from the 1964 Beatles album A HARD DAY'S NIGHT. Though album served as the soundtrack for the Beatles' movie, this track doesn't appear in the film. Left off the American pressing of the album, making its stateside debut in the Capitol-issued release SOMETHING NEW later that year. Songwriting credited to John Lennon & Paul McCartney, but mainly composed by Lennon with instrumental middle eight by McCartney with lyrics intended to be added later over that section but never were. McCartney splits chorus duty with Lennon, who couldn't reach the notes. Lennon's handwritten lyrics sold at auction in 1988 for 6,000 Pounds.

    In 1980, Lennon described the song in his Playboy interview as "An effort at writing "It Won't Be Long." Same ilk: C to A minor, C to A minor--with me shouting."

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    Beatles concert in Melbourne with support act. They start in 40 min.
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    One of the greatest less-knows songs of group. Too bad there isn't any video of them singing this.

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