01-30-2013, 09:19 AM
I'm looking for more.
WE'RE GONNA FIGHT!
This weekend...one last chance to save Halle's career from complete oblivion. Oh, wait...
"...it's already done."
01-30-2013, 09:23 AM
Let's not forget that, in the movie, contrary to the stage, "I Dreamed a Dream" comes AFTER she's been fired, she's sold her hair, then her teeth and then has become a prostitute. In the show she's "merely" been fired. It's normal Hathaway's version is WAY angrier, more desperate. To me, as far as acting goes, Hathaway is easily the best fantine I've seen. I also like that, because of that angriness, Fantine comes off as something more than a sacrificial lamb, more as a full-fledged woman able to rebell (at least in her inner self) against the situation she's living.
Originally Posted by siowafc
01-30-2013, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by steve4922
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Will Oscar have Riva Fever?
01-30-2013, 10:59 AM
LA, you always let me back in.
I have said I hate Ruffelle's voice... on the American original cast recording. My God, she had some sort of awkward pitch-sliding disease on it. When I went to tell McTeague this forever ago (and of course he remembers ), I found that every live version I saw, her voice was much improved, and her emotional input and realism was truly great. I just can't get over how awful her take on the American OCR is.
01-30-2013, 11:37 AM
And I don't care WHO makes fun of me but at least up to now, after hearing several versions of 'I Have Dreamed a Dream', the one that makes me cry the most and that I think the best is:
I suppose it's like considered embarrassing or whatever to like her, but her live version and for that matter, her recording of the song, are still my favorite. I've heard Lupone's version and a couple of others on Pandora and they didn't really move me though they were sung well. Overall, I love Ruthie Henshell the most as Fantine for overall performance thus far, especially for her 'Come to Me'.
01-30-2013, 02:09 PM
The Pirate Guy
Wholly fuckballs, has anyone else seen this?
EDIT: LOL, I guess I should have looked at the previous page
01-30-2013, 03:52 PM
Only Gosling Forgives
LOL, that's been all over the internets for days now so, yes, everyone has seen it.
01-30-2013, 03:55 PM
The Pirate Guy
I'm late to this party. Don't judge me!
Originally Posted by erikdean
01-30-2013, 03:56 PM
Only Gosling Forgives
You're re-tardy for the party.
Originally Posted by crazyfists3600
01-30-2013, 05:08 PM
So I finally saw it and I....kinda enjoyed it.
I mean there's a lot of terrible things here. The Dutch angles of death, Crowe, even Jackman was pretty off-putting and didn't seem to really embody his character and this is from someone who knows very little about the musical. He just seemed comfortable most of the time. I didn't feel any sense of danger with his encounters with Javert or him being haunted by his past.
Hathaway was good and she certainly sung and acted her part for all she was worth but I didn't feel the weight of what she was singing about at all. I just didn't have the connection with her character to make the emotional payoff worth it. With the baitiness of her part being trumpeted all year long and her winning the lion's share of supporting awards I was expecting a Zeta-Jones like tour-de-force her or at least something more substantial. Barks in comparison, in her similarly small role, was able to sell me her unrequited love and make me feel for her. Her "A Little Fall of Rain" with Redmayne was perfect.
Speaking of Redmayne, I thought he was sublime. He easily towers over the rest of the cast and runs away with the picture. His acting was very cinematic and subtle for such a grandiose musical as this. He made me care for what others have said is a really nothing character. Seyfried acquitted herself well enough but her part really was nothing.
This is definitely a hot mess but an entertaining one. A lot of the blame has to be given to Hooper who aside from the awful camera angles, and storytelling choices (Javert's death is such a non-event?) failed to rein in Jackman who basically carries the movie. However, I think this a step-up from The King's Speech which was largely flat and unremarkable. So I give him that.
01-31-2013, 12:23 AM
Took my parents to see this. Loved Hathaway, not surprised she's winning. Jackman okay but disappointing, Crowe so understated as to be an afterthought, Seyfried reminded me of Snow White with the trills and she's cute as a button as usual. Why Redmayne liked her better than Barks though...oh, right, of course, Seyfreid's blonde.
Redmayne really nailed his big piece, wonderful, that helped wake me up during the third act when I was starting to doze off (the high point with Hathaway comes very early and Crowe and Jackman don't make up the gap). Sacha and Helena are fun, how could they miss with those roles. I liked watching for Hooper's camera angles of death, it perked up the boring parts. All in all some high points and worth seeing, I wasn't sitting there in horror like many here apparently. And my parents thought this was the best movie they'd seen in a good while, so am glad they got to see it on the big screen, I did my good deed for the month.
Who was that guy Helena was all over in the inn, I predict great things for that man!
I adored Hathaway. She really was a high point on 2012. My only complaint was that she didn't get her hair back in the end when she came back as a heavenly vision. What's the point of heaven if you can't have long tresses?
Originally Posted by McTeague
Last edited by AllThisAndMrCecilToo; 01-31-2013 at 01:48 AM.
01-31-2013, 12:48 AM
Was Susan Boyle considered for casting?
01-31-2013, 01:50 AM
In her dreams? But, hey, she inspired Hathaway, girl says so herself. That's more credit than Thatcher got from La Streep.
Originally Posted by faina
01-31-2013, 05:14 AM
LOL, I thought the same. In the stage she appears with the long hair.
Originally Posted by AllThisAndMrCecilToo
I wonder if Hooper is implying that Fantine’s ghost isn’t really there, that it’s just Valjean’s delirium. Because Valjean has only known Fantine with the short hair, he only notices her when she’s already fallen. So, he wouldn’t imagine her with the long hair, but rather as he knew her.
But I think it’s mostly that they didn’t think of that when making the shooting schedule, and when they realised Hathaway had already cut her hair before shooting that scene, they thought a wig would be distracting. In the stage it’s easy because the actress playing Fantine doesn’t really cut her hair, but they, and Hathaway in her OMG method actressing thirst, didn’t realise that, if you really cut your hair, you have to shoot the finale FIRST.
02-01-2013, 05:49 PM
. . .
Yeah, ok, I don't know why I expected a different reaction from myself here. There was just no way I was not going to at least enjoy this.
I actually kinda loved it. I won't go into detail now, but while I found the direction flawed from time to time, I actually liked some of the things that people are tearing apart. The close-ups were not bad? I would have cut a few of Jackman's, but Redmayne's, Hathaway's and Barks' were very powerful.
My biggest criticism would be Crowe, mainly for Stars. But I loved other bits of his performance and his death scene.
I can rationally explain all the bad reviews and AD's attitude towards this. But, as someone who has loved this show for a very long time, this just felt like a very different, experimental production to me and one that moved me with the same kind of Romantic pathetism that is found in a lot of popular literature and theater from the 1800's. It's certainly not the musically epic vision of the stage version, and while that was bothering me for the first few minutes, I was soon lost in the new direction Hooper took. Maybe most people wanted a more classic Broadway approach? This reminded me more of a musical melodrama than a Broadway show which is something I enjoyed a lot.
Oh, and McT, thank you for your kindness but I won't need that room after all. At one point I thought my mother and sister had turned into little veritas. They bawled throughout the last 20 minutes of the film.