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    Hey, update yourself, this is at 64.

    http://www.metacritic.com/movie/les-...critic-reviews

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    OMG, the same as Gladiator

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt92 View Post
    OMG, the same as Gladiator
    This is winning!

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    LOL, honestly after its boxoffice yesterday, I wouldn't write the film off yet.

    The reviews are pretty mediocre (72 Rotten Tomatoes, 64 Metacritic) especially comparing to the trend of recent Best Picture winners (I think since what happened after Crash, pretty much all Best Picture winners have really high Metacritic scores?), and certainly low compare to contenders this year (Zero Dark Thirty, Lincoln, Argo and The Master). But the film seems to be really clicking with audiences emotionally, and if this was 15-20 years ago, during the era of Gladiator and Braveheart, its reviews probably wouldn't matter as much as it does now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Francisand View Post
    LOL, honestly after its boxoffice yesterday, I wouldn't write the film off yet.

    The reviews are pretty mediocre (72 Rotten Tomatoes, 64 Metacritic) especially comparing to the trend of recent Best Picture winners (I think since what happened after Crash, pretty much all Best Picture winners have really high Metacritic scores?), and certainly low compare to contenders this year (Zero Dark Thirty, Lincoln, Argo and The Master). But the film seems to be really clicking with audiences emotionally, and if this was 15-20 years ago, during the era of Gladiator and Braveheart, its reviews probably wouldn't matter as much as it does now.
    Agreed. Especially considering the A CinemaScore.

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    The problem will be/is in the director spot. I know a couple of movies have won without a Best Director nomination, but that’s so rare, and it’s happened in years that looked weaker than this one.

    Now, if Hooper gets a director nod, then yes, the movie will be a contender to win regardless reviews. But that’s a big “If”, especially considering how crowded the best director field looks, and how persistent the word on Hooper’s visuals being the main problem has been.

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    But director isn't that competitive this year. Spielberg, Affleck and Bigelow are locked, but I can see Hooper replacing Ang Lee and especially David O'Russell.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jali View Post
    But director isn't that competitive this year. Spielberg, Affleck and Bigelow are locked, but I can see Hooper replacing Ang Lee and especially David O'Russell.
    Yeah but there's also Tarantino and PT Anderson, both highly respected and with very good reviews, and they make sense as directors' choices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jali View Post
    But director isn't that competitive this year. Spielberg, Affleck and Bigelow are locked, but I can see Hooper replacing Ang Lee and especially David O'Russell.
    The problem is Tarantino. Django has an 89 on Rt and an 80 on Metacritic and yesterday it made 15.5 million making it Tarantini biggest opening. When that movie starting getting raves it took a lot of hype from Tom and now the movie is living up to the hype.

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    LOL, in Spain’s best-sold film magazine, the edgiest critic has given it 4 stars (saying it feels almost like a silent movie in the way it squeezes melodrama juice via close-ups) and the most traditional a pan (comparing its editing and frenzied camera to Luhrman, as if that was a bad thing). LOL I’d love it if this became cult among les edgies!

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    This will be the Godards favorite movie of all timez.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas View Post
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    LOL, the guy was saying it felt more radical than conventional and that it brought to mind more Demy or Von Trier than Hollywood musicals. OMG, now Hooper's close-up aesthetic is gonna be considered avant-garde instead of a misstep! You missed the boat again, American critics!

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    Quote Originally Posted by McTeague View Post
    LOL, the guy was saying it felt more radical than conventional and that it brought to mind more Demy or Von Trier than Hollywood musicals. OMG, now Hooper's close-up aesthetic is gonna be considered avant-garde instead of a misstep! You missed the boat again, American critics!
    LOL. Actually, Hooper's staging of the numbers didn't bother me in the least (with one Big exception); my favorite was the transition from Lovely Ladies to I Dreamed a Dream. As for his Dutch-angles proclivities, well, they haven't bothered me in his TV work or King's Speech, and they really didn't bother me here. As for the closeups, well that was fine too (except that I wish he had cut away to a master shot or at least a medium shot in Empty Chairs.)

    Jackman, wobbly Bring Him Home and all, is extraordinary; I thought the scene where he meets young Cosette was pretty magical, frankly.

    Hathaway is winning the Oscar, period and full stop.

    I'm giving this a B+ only for two reasons: Crowe is really kind of weak as Javert; even if I think that Javert's Suicide was fine, the rest was kinda, sorta blah.

    The other reason is that I think Hooper fucked-up Master of the House. Pretty much hated everything about it. Fortunately, I think the rest of the numbers are fine.
    It's good. Would have been extraordinary with a better Javert.

    Audience-wise, I think it will do fine. Saw it once with a redneck crowd in Hickory and again with a foodie art house crowd in Asheville, and both crowds were blubbering messes and applauded at the end. Box-office for this should be fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McTeague View Post
    Hey, update yourself, this is at 64.

    http://www.metacritic.com/movie/les-...critic-reviews
    Yeah. Someone should edit the thread title.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McTeague View Post
    LOL, the guy was saying it felt more radical than conventional and that it brought to mind more Demy or Von Trier than Hollywood musicals. OMG, now Hooper's close-up aesthetic is gonna be considered avant-garde instead of a misstep! You missed the boat again, American critics!
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    If the number should fall, we'll update the title again, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markku Palo View Post
    If the number should fall, we'll update the title again, right?
    I am not surprised it will linger around the 60s. The 50s felt too little, somehow. And as I have said from the beginning: This will be a big, financial success. It does not need the critics to be 100% on board, it needs a sensational WOM, which I think it'll get.
    This is the high end version of Mamma Mia!, basically, and I am not sure it was aiming for more. Whatever Oscar nods and wins it'll land will just be the icing on the cake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McTeague View Post
    The problem will be/is in the director spot. I know a couple of movies have won without a Best Director nomination, but that’s so rare, and it’s happened in years that looked weaker than this one.

    Now, if Hooper gets a director nod, then yes, the movie will be a contender to win regardless reviews. But that’s a big “If”, especially considering how crowded the best director field looks, and how persistent the word on Hooper’s visuals being the main problem has been.
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    Maybe I'm clouded by how much I loved the film, but I can see AMPAS giving the critics the finger and going for this in a big way anyway. There seems to be a pretty clear divide between audience and critical reception here. I don't even think Hooper is totally out of it, but it will still be an uphill battle with that branch.

    Great. Now who's going to watch Sunday Rose on SAG night??

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