I think people of a certain age would remember Doris Day, Lauren Bacall, Angela Lansbury, Shirley Jones...so no, I don't think Eleanor Parker is that comparable to those ladies. Obviously if we're talking about 20-year-olds, then yeah...it's unlikely but they probably don't know Jane Fonda, Shirley MacLaine, or Sissy Spacek either.Originally Posted by francesco-natale
They remember Doris Day because she's a singer, Bacall because she's Bogar's wife, Angela Lansbury because she was in Murder She Wrote, Shirley Jones ... do they really remember Shirley Jones ?????
My grand-parents, who loves movies, knowed perfectly who was Parker, as all my younger cinephile friends ... but, it's maybe a european point of view, because, for exemple, I'm almost sure they have no idea about Shirley Jones.
I believe It's the sociology who make the icons, not the talent.
Shirley Jones, if anything, because she was in the Partridge Family. Again, I said people of a certain age. Obviously teens and people in their twenties wouldn't know. Shirley was also in a lot of the Rodgers/Hammestein stuff in the 50's.
Aside from The Sound of Music, I always remember Eleanor Parker as the only Best Actress nominee from 1950 I haven't seen!
When you think about it, it's crazy that you get people like Eleanor Parker, who practically no one remembers today, who received three nominations (not to mention Marsha Mason who received 4...and where is she today?)...and then on the other side, you've got icons like Marilyn Monroe and superior actresses like Myrna Loy who were never even nominated...not to mention the countless number who have only received one nomination in their entire careers, despite stellar work (Jean Arthur, for one). But it's the nature of the game.
Having said all that, I bet Jennifer Lawrence winsHaha.
In Home for the holidays Eleanor Parker plays a psychopath that wants to kill Sally Field. For that TV movie alone Parker deserves to be remembered like a saint.
Jali Awards Best Actress 1920-1925
1920 Tora Teje, Erotikon // 1921 Pola Negri, The wildcat
1922 Anna May Wong, The toll of the sea // 1923 Marion Davies, Little old New York
1924 Marie Prevost, The marriage circle // 1925 Gloria Swanson, Stage struck
Really?
what are you guys even talking about now? I feel like i'm in a different thread.
hahaha, wow, that's terrible.
Also, Watts is a terrific actress, but she's kind of a limp personality in real life. That's why I doubt any of her work will be remembered except Mulholland Dr., because that alone gives her an iconic role. For some actresses, like Angelina Jolie, they never get a truly iconic role, but they're such an interesting personality that there's a guarantee they belong to the ages. Watts, like a lot of actresses and actors before her, will become a statistic.
Tomb Raider was Angelina's iconic role. I doubt anyone remembers Naomi Watts in Mulholland Dr, if they even know what that is.
Well, I think the film buffs are going to do their damnedest to keep Mulholland Dr. remembered. It seems to be a really strong consensus choice for best film of the 00's among critics and film fans, or at the very least a perennial part of the top ten.
Mullholland Drive will be remembered as being part of the oveure of a legendary auteur in David Lynch, and not neccesarily for Watts. Film buffs remember Barry Lyndon for Stanley Kubrick, not for Ryan O'Neal, (even though he played friggin' Barry Lyndon). Laura Elena Harring was also very good in Mullholand Drive, and nobody even rembers her today.
Nanny Watts is federally fucked. No legacy for the Nanny.
OMG.
Federally fucked? I don't know what that is but it sounds hilarious.
you guys shouldn't underestimate The Ring series as being a classical horror flick already. I know there's Samarah who steals the show but mainstream audience remembers Ellen Burstyn for The Exorcist or Shelley Duvall for Shining and will likely do the same with Noemí for getting tortured by that little girl.
sorry, I thought it stands for Frederika.How many females FRED do you know?
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Can you find that ONE mistake?
Marsha Mason is an interesting one. It's incredible that someone can get 4 Best Actress nominations and be so obscure and relatively unknown. I honestly feel the closest equivalent to Mason today will be Amy Adams. She keeps getting nominated, but nothing about her screams "legendary actress".
It's also interesting that 3 of Mason's nominations came from Neil Simon penned screenplays. She seems to have been a muse who benefitted from Simon's popularity during the 70's and early 80's. Not many of Simon's films have stayed popular though. Mason might have been better remembered if she did her thing for Woody Allen instead.
I don't think Marsha Mason and Amy Adams are comparable at all, but maybe that's just me. And I'm no fan of Mason, but at least she has The Goodbye Girl to her credit, which is still a memorable film today.
If I would compare Amy Adams to anyone it would be Marisa Tomei...two actresses who have carved out nice careers out of strong supporting roles. There are plenty of actresses from back in the day more like them than Mason.
But, this is irrelevant.
After Chastain and Lawrence, I don't think this category is easy to predict at all.
Ouch. Poor Adams
You shut your goddamn mouth about Amy Adams. She's an acting genius.
Well I wouldn't go that far, but her Junebug performance was easily one of the best of the 2000's. I'm not really a fan of too much of her work afterwards, though Enchanted was fun and she did well against-type in The Fighter.You shut your goddamn mouth about Amy Adams. She's an acting genius.
Anyways, little late BUT here is the comment that was made in the GoldDerby forum:
This is exactly how it was posted.
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