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    Quote Originally Posted by Donezo View Post
    I think that pitting American film vs. American television over the past five years makes film look fairly bad in comparison overall actually.
    I'd agree with this wholeheartedly. There's just so much more room for invention on television, especially given that cable in general will throw almost anything out on TV to see if it sticks. Even in shows that are middling, there's the opportunity for something incredibly amazing to blossom forth (i.e., comparing the absolutely average first season of The Big Bang Theory to its completely unbelievable second season). I've been more interested in television comedy than filmic comedy for quite some time, and recently, there's been such an embarrassment of riches that it's hard to even justify going to the theatre for a comedy. Drama is something I'm less familiar with, but if Breaking Bad was a movie, I'm sure four people would've seen it and it would've died a quick death at the box office. TV allows for growth that films just do not. And once you factor in economics, it's really no wonder that a lot of film's output is rote.

    Not to say that every year, there aren't a great handful of films. But the only comparable film that captures those elements of invention quite like Breaking Bad, The Walking Dead, Gravity Falls, or whatever TV show you want to slot in - personally, I'd lean towards S15 of South Park as one of the strongest seasons of TV I've seen in a long time - would be, for me, The Social Network, and even that is looking to the past, rather than the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donezo View Post
    I think that pitting American film vs. American television over the past five years makes film look fairly bad in comparison overall actually.
    Eh, I think the real masterpieces in film are interesting and experiential in a way that TV can only rarely touch. TV drama and film drama are aiming at such different types of story-telling at their highest levels that it's hard to compare them. However, the glory that is Louie aside, I don't know that the aims and methods of TV and film comedies are too different and TV comes out looking much stronger IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben7 View Post
    Well ok, but sometimes I feel like making $250M might be a deterrent to liking a good film.

    sideline to original post: Now I'm trying to think of what the best comedies of the past 10 years are, other than those two. The short list I could come up with includes: Knocked Up, Christmas With The Kranks, Fun With Dick and Jane, and The Devil Wears Prada.
    The greatest comedy of all time is The Big Lebowski.

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    Ditch "Les Mis" for "The Master" and this would be a great line-up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OscarsFan 2.3 View Post
    Ditch "Les Mis" for "The Master" and this would be a great line-up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyfists3600 View Post
    Maybe after "Nymphomaniac" next year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stéphane View Post
    The greatest comedy of all time is The Big Lebowski.

    Go make me a white russian.
    Gonna defer to Wayne's World, though Lebowski is in my top five.

    "If Benjamin was an ice-cream flavor, he'd be pralines... and dick."

    Actually, so off-topic for real, but top five comedies ever:

    1. Wayne's World
    2. Major League
    3. The Big Lebowski
    4. Singin' in the Rain
    5. Forgetting Sarah Marshall

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    Anyone who thinks The Hangover is one of the ten best films of 2009 needs to see more films. A lot more films.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben7 View Post
    So glad to see The Dark Knight Rises in there! I'm still thinking that it may in fact be an Oscar contender. Christopher Nolan, Michael Caine, and Anne Hathaway have all been campaigning for it. I'm hoping it might sneak in, kind of like how we got District 9 a couple years ago.
    I wish it would get in - It'll certainly be in my Top Ten - but it's unlikely. The critical response wasn't as loud as TDK, there are other more obvious contenders and I just don't think there's enough love for Nolan in the academy for TDKR to get a lot of number one votes. I'd love to be wrong, though.

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    Well, I"m happy to see some love for TDKR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kitkat View Post
    Yikes for The Master. Even A Serious Man managed to make the AFI list on its way to the Oscar nod.

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    Another snub for "The Master". I'm this close to taking it out of my BFCA predictions. I don't think it's getting in with the Academy either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by electric_storm View Post
    Another snub for "The Master". I'm this close to taking it out of my BFCA predictions. I don't think it's getting in with the Academy either way.
    Too late for that.

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    Bugger. I had "Moonrise Kingdom" in instead of it but caved when I realised how many other nominations I had it down for. That's the one thing I think is still really in favor of the film, it looks set for at least 4 other nominations, most of them major.

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    Why are people freaking out about the AFI? They didn't even include The Departed on their top ten for 2006, and it WON.

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