Originally Posted by Aurelius
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I mean, my position isn't really nearly as far as Aurelius'. I think Singin' in the Rain is legitimately one of the best movies ever made, and I've seen a fair number of musicals I like quite a lot. I love Hedwig and the Angry Inch. A well-rounded film person should probably know what Meet Me in St. Louis and The Wizard of Oz are (or, you know, Dancer in the Dark and Topsy-Turvy.) Judy Garland, Fred Astaire, Gene Kelly, Vincente Minnelli are all names a person should probably know. But the film industry is not broadway, and I'm sort of at a loss as to where all these canonical movie musicals that should be hugely socially relevant to a person who came of age in the 90s and 2000s are, especially if one is generally adverse to big, star-ridden Hollywood productions, show tunes, and stagey cinematography. I'm not going to pretend that I care in any way, shape or form about Moulin Rouge!, Chicago, Dream Girls, and so forth, not because there's music in them, but because from the ground up those were never going to be movies of interest to me. And there's exactly one musical in the Sight&Sound top 100.
I'm not someone who's going to dismiss a genre, and even if I were obviously it would be unfounded to do so to musicals, but I also don't exactly see why musicals specifically should be so relevant to me, especially given that I'm bad with lyrics and I'm not really into show tunes. It's not like folks just rejected Russian novels or something. So, yeah, the thought of going to a big, three-hour epic movie where every line of dialogue is sung sounds like a real bloody chore to me. And, yes, I know that they do the same thing in opera, but...jeeze, speaking of art forms that aren't culturally relevant to me. I mean, I can enjoy operas as classical music, but as a method of storytelling and narrative, how many people here really know the first thing about opera?
Last edited by Sage; 12-03-2012 at 04:03 AM.
I think I did not make myself clear earlier: my dislike I generally aimed at stage-to-film musicals, although I do seriouly not like Singing In The Rain. Call me odd, but something like Hedwig or Dancer In The Dark I do not see primarily as musicals.
I will marshall all the forces of darkness to hound you to an assisted suicide - Peter Capaldi, In The Loop
Someone who does not like Singing in the Rain cannot be an "hedonist".
My two favorite film musicals are Brigadoon and Les Demoiselles de Rochefort. I am not fond of "stage musicals".
I am not sure I want to see Les Misérables, despite loving Hugo's novel. Not because it is a musical but because I dislike Tom Hooper's intrusive filming style.
Aurelius is more of an Epicurean-style hedonist, I think. Sittin' in his garden. Eatin' figs.
But then he's ironically named after a stoic!
I will marshall all the forces of darkness to hound you to an assisted suicide - Peter Capaldi, In The Loop
I totally understand (well not really) people not like musicals. But I actually can't believe any lover of cinema wouldn't at least appreciate Singin' in the Rain
Oh Lord Jesus, Anne Hathaway's winning an oscah
I guess I'll have to make a movie of Sunday in the Park With George and blow everyone's MINDS.
I've been skeptical from the start about this stage-to-screen musical, particularly since the play's narrative is, or was to me, mostly incomprehensible.
Sags, go to opera and you will get program notes explaining the narrative. In some opera houses they have small screens mounted on the seat in front of you with the lyrics streaming in languages of your choice. But, generally and historically, it's assumed that you will see different productions of the same show many times in your life, discuss it at home and in cafes and will become familiar enough with the narrative that you will get the set-up for the songs.
killing time... when do we get actual reviews?
C'est pas notre faute. It's not our fault.
I wasn't too thrilled by Les MIz when I saw it in NY, but the song score is great. I hope I like the film.
I never lip-sync. I belt out along with the original and harmonize when possible.
Lip-syncing! Just the thought! (If I weren't such a bad singer I'd be offended.)
Exactly. I don't remember the last time I was drunk and didn't scream "Don't Cry for Me Argentina" so loud everyone started hated me. Lip-syncing!
I know I've got a big ego, I really don't know why it's such a big deal, though.
So, so true!
Get it, girl.
Love to see the show!
We do drag serious in Alabama. Camp, too..... but serious, knock your dick in the dirt beautiful, young drag glamour.... lip syncing "I Dreamed a Dream" and "On My Own".... and lot of other stuff. Bet I've seen a couple dozen drag performances of those songs.
C'est pas notre faute. It's not our fault.
Well, my friends are well-educated and most of those I've brought up Les Miz with, they were like, "Oh, what's that?" And if there is a glancing knowledge of Les Miz, it's that they recognize The Song from Glee or Susan Boyle. That might change after the movie comes out, but most people really don't care about stage shows or old literature aside from what they're forced to read in school.Are you sure you're not underselling Les Mis? To not even have heard of it? I mean, it's a really huge thing.
Oof, and not liking Fiddler or Singin' in the Rain makes zero sense to me.
I personally hated Singing in the Rain and dislike almost every musical I've seen, Disney aside.
Ang Lee - The only 2x Bafta/DGA/Oscar-Winning Director!
Meryl on Oscars: Y’see these little babies? These are my best f***ing friends
and they never let me down. Try to get ‘em away from me and I’ll eat you alive.
It's funny to think about the road I've gone on to be in a position to come to know of the book/musical. As a fanatical 15 year old Star Wars fan, when TPM came out, I started looking up Liam Neeson's movies after being amazed by him as Qui-Gon. That's how I came to view the 1998 adaptation of Les Miserables (with Neeson as Valjean and Geoffrey Rush as Javert). Thus did I become a big fan of both Neeson and Rush, as well as the story of Les Miserables (I would later read the book and fall in love with the stage musical). Those 3 things were probably the best thing to come of the release of The Phantom Menace. LOL
It and his final duet w/ Hathaway are his best in show! but i have to disagree that Hathaway is the standout. She was fantastic but really actressing. Barks was effortless and gave just as bold a performance IMO.
Just in case anyone wanted to know, Banana Republic is handing out free tickets to see this tomorrow. (I'm assuming they are just handing out a voucher to redeem when it comes out, but, hey, a free movie is a free movie!)
WE'RE GONNA FIGHT!
This weekend...one last chance to save Halle's career from complete oblivion. Oh, wait...
"...it's already done."
#THECALL.
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