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    Of course, Haneke and Riva has Kidman's vote. Last year, I believe, she said one of her favorite movies was A Separation. She's one member who's not voting for the My Week With Marilyn/Hitchcocks etc. of the world, that's for sure. Although I'm sure she'll vote for The Impossible, if only because of Naomi. She probably feels obligated.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight View Post
    I know that when I went to see the film my audience seemed to really like it (some old lady stood outside the door asking every single person "How'd you like the picture" .)
    LMFAO. Was this an advanced screening, or was she just some random Keiramaniac?

    It was probably Lawrence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by with_one_voice View Post
    Gurus o' Gold: November 30

    1. Jennifer Lawrence - Silver Linings Playbook (59 pts)
    2. Jessica Chastain - Zero Dark Thirty (55 pts)
    3. Marion Cotillard - Rust and Bone (29 pts)
    4. Quvenzhane Wallis - Beasts of the Southern Wild (19 pts)
    5. Emmanuelle Riva - Amour (13 pts)
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    6. Naomi Watts - The Impossible (12 pts)
    7. Helen Mirren - Hitchcock (7 pts)
    8. Keira Knightley - Anna Karenina (1 pt)

    No one else with any votes

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    They have the same top 5 as goldderby, except goldderby has a lot more confidence in Knightley than the gurus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurelius View Post
    Thanks! Interesting. Do you also have their points at the time?
    Yup, just added them to the post. Keep in mind, though, that points across the two years shouldn't really be compared. By that I mean in the one published today, they didn't consider the gurus' 6th place choices, so the maximum score anyone could get was 65 pts. Whereas, in the one from Dec 6th of last year, they did consider 6th place choices, so the maximum score was 78 pts.

    But, I think comparing points within each list is actually pretty helpful and reliable. For example, last year, there was a big drop-off between #3, Williams (53 pts) and #4, Close (27 pts), which was actually very indicative of the race at the time -- Davis, Streep, and Williams were widely considered the 3 'locks', and there was less of a consensus around the remaining spots.

    Likewise, in today's edition, there's a significant drop off between #2, Chastain (55 pts) and #3, Cotillard (29 pts), which I also think is indicative of the general sense that Lawrence and Chastain are the two frontrunners and arguably the only 'locks' right now.

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    While I don't think Riva is a lock, I think this whole idea that her campaign isn't as strong is somewhat misplaced. She may not be working the circuit herself as much as, say, Cotillard, but SPC is definitely pushing the movie hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jali View Post
    Keira Knightley makes sense if we take in consideration that almost every year there is an actress that AD at large dismisses because they don't want it to happen (Blanchett 07, Theron and Dench 05, Jolie, Bullock, Mirren 09, etc, etc).
    ...and Naomi Watts, year after year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by with_one_voice View Post
    Yup, just added them to the post. Keep in mind, though, that points across the two years shouldn't really be compared. By that I mean in the one published today, they didn't consider the gurus' 6th place choices, so the maximum score anyone could get was 65 pts. Whereas, in the one from Dec 6th of last year, they did consider 6th place choices, so the maximum score was 78 pts.

    But, I think comparing points within each list is actually pretty helpful and reliable. For example, last year, there was a big drop-off between #3, Williams (53 pts) and #4, Close (27 pts), which was actually very indicative of the race at the time -- Davis, Streep, and Williams were widely considered the 3 'locks', and there was less of a consensus around the remaining spots.

    Likewise, in today's edition, there's a significant drop off between #2, Chastain (55 pts) and #3, Cotillard (29 pts), which I also think is indicative of the general sense that Lawrence and Chastain are the two frontrunners and arguably the only 'locks' right now.
    Yeah, this is just what I was thinking when I scrolled back to your post. Very comparable. There's also a gap between #3 and #4 now, and there was quite a bit of a gap between #2 and #3 last year. The pattern is very much the same.



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    Quote Originally Posted by with_one_voice View Post
    Yup, just added them to the post. Keep in mind, though, that points across the two years shouldn't really be compared. By that I mean in the one published today, they didn't consider the gurus' 6th place choices, so the maximum score anyone could get was 65 pts. Whereas, in the one from Dec 6th of last year, they did consider 6th place choices, so the maximum score was 78 pts.

    But, I think comparing points within each list is actually pretty helpful and reliable. For example, last year, there was a big drop-off between #3, Williams (53 pts) and #4, Close (27 pts), which was actually very indicative of the race at the time -- Davis, Streep, and Williams were widely considered the 3 'locks', and there was less of a consensus around the remaining spots.

    Likewise, in today's edition, there's a significant drop off between #2, Chastain (55 pts) and #3, Cotillard (29 pts), which I also think is indicative of the general sense that Lawrence and Chastain are the two frontrunners and arguably the only 'locks' right now.
    So, if we're going off of the Gurus comparisons, our nominees will be Lawrence, Chastain, Cotillard, Wallis, and either Watts or Mirren depending on how one wants to consider their post-NBR Swinton placement.

    Also interesting is that Streep won and she was in 2nd place... just like Chastain is now. The same thing with Best Actor, this time last year they had Clooney at #1 and Dujardin at #2... right now they have DDL at #1 and Jackman at #2.

    I'm not saying this means anything, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tracy View Post
    I feel like Watts may fill that AD-hate slot this year though.
    Not just this year, should be year after year, it is permanently sealed. And not just AD, also GD, G of G, GG,.....it's an honor.

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    Lol. Variety totally gets THR's leftovers. Their best actress contender panel is Rashida Jones, Leslie Mann, Winstead, Wallis, Emayatsy and Elle Fanning.

    I'm not saying these actresses were bad or anything but I can't really see most of them being their top choices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guany View Post
    So, if we're going off of the Gurus comparisons, our nominees will be Lawrence, Chastain, Cotillard, Wallis, and either Watts or Mirren depending on how one wants to consider their post-NBR Swinton placement.

    Also interesting is that Streep won and she was in 2nd place... just like Chastain is now. The same thing with Best Actor, this time last year they had Clooney at #1 and Dujardin at #2... right now they have DDL at #1 and Jackman at #2.

    I'm not saying this means anything, though.
    Well, Davies was more favored because her movie had the best shot getting a BP nom from the whole BA group-and so it was. And Clooney was just the bigger star, I think.
    I doubt that will repeat this year, but would be interesting if it does.

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    Listening to today's Tapley/Thompson podcast. Tapley says that Chastain is "amazing" and that she's going to win; Thompson says it's a race.

    Granted, Tapley hated SLP, so I don't know.

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    Rule: never take an individual prognosticator's predictions serious.

    That's why Gurus of Gold is more indicative. THAT IS WHY WE ARE SO GOOD.



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    I won't consider Jessica a real threat for the win unless she starts running the table at these critics awards. Jennifer literally has this shit on lock until something big happens.

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    I really hope Jennifer doesn't literally have shit on lock. That sounds unsanitary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurelius View Post
    Rule: never take an individual prognosticator's predictions serious.

    That's why Gurus of Gold is more indicative. THAT IS WHY WE ARE SO GOOD.
    Oh, I'm not taking it seriously. Just sharing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steandric View Post
    ...and Naomi Watts, year after year.
    AD largely dismisses her AND she never happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cecilia View Post
    Lol. Variety totally gets THR's leftovers. Their best actress contender panel is Rashida Jones, Leslie Mann, Winstead, Wallis, Emayatsy and Elle Fanning.

    I'm not saying these actresses were bad or anything but I can't really see most of them being their top choices.
    Rashida Jones? What movie is she in the Oscar race for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by clearwatergirl View Post
    Rashida Jones? What movie is she in the Oscar race for?
    Celeste and Jesse?

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