J. Edgar is the only movie he's done recently that could be remotely described as "begging for an Oscar".Originally Posted by homespun
Alan Arkin – Argo
Russell Crowe – Les Misérables
Robert De Niro – Silver Linings Playbook
Leonardo DiCaprio – Django Unchained
Dwight Henry – Beasts of the Southern Wild
Philip Seymour Hoffman – The Master
Tommy Lee Jones – Lincoln
Matthew McConaughey – Magic Mike
Ewan McGregor – The Impossible
Eddie Redmayne – Les Misérables
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J. Edgar is the only movie he's done recently that could be remotely described as "begging for an Oscar".
"This is not your daddy's HBO version of Mandela," said Weinstein. "This is the kickass version of Mandela."
Mcgregor's might not be technically the most powerful voice ever, but he sings with such heart and emotion, that I actually kind of love his voice. He deserved to be considered for a nomination on his singing, which was actually pretty excellent.
DDL was crap, and I can't even remember what Gere sounded like (not a good sign).
Point taken. maybe not ddl, LOl their acting/dance skills more than made the perfs great. I mean if Kidman got in & macgregor whose voice is much better IMO, should have.
GERE WAS AMAZING! DDL is the russell crowe of Nine, but i still loved his perf. My point is all of those actors deserved recognition. or maybe i'm just a musical nutcase.
LOL. Grouping all musicals together, especially Les Mis and Chicago, is the epitome of surface-level logic. Gere and Jackman have absolutely nothing in common.
You clearly don't know anything about Les Miserables, Jackman's character, or the reception to his performance.
Considering the fact that I saw it, I know enough. I read the book, saw the stage production and the movie yesterday. I know the material, dear. I've also seen all of the other films that i referenced. also sweeney todd.
also, do you really think that AMPAS voters are going to dissect every musical performance the same way they do non-musical perfs? NO! but this is the supporting actor thread, so i'm done on this topic. it''s definitely a nail biter.
My mistake.
But your argument still doesn't hold water. You can't just group all musicals together. Sorry!
trust me, the average ampas member who wasn't a muscial theatre geek will group all musicals together. it's illogical to have someone break out in song in the middle of a dramatic scene. But I do understand the point. I just don't think that my dear Redmayne is going to make it. He's so wonderful in the movie.
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Again, your argument doesn't work. They nominated Depp five years ago. They've given wins to Rex Harrison, Joel Grey, Bing Crosby, Yul Brynner, etc.
Day-Lewis wasn't nominated for Nine because both he and the film were awful. Gere wasn't nominated because he's not very popular and his role was borderline supporting. As for McGregor, he was overshadowed by Kidman throughout the entirety of the film.
If the Academy doesn't think it's logical to have someone break out in song in the middle of a dramatic scene, how did Chicago, West Side Story, The Sound of Music, etc all win Best Picture? How did Jennifer Hudson win just six years ago?
If anything hurts Les Mis and/or Jackman, Redmayne, etc, it's not the film's genre but its quality.
I didn't say the academy doesn't reward perfs in musicals. I said they haven't rewarded males lately. Granted I did forget Depp's nomination. But you've just bolstered my argument. Hudson won, murphy wasn't nommed just like all of the other males i named earlier. only 1 male perf in a musical in the past 15 years has been nominated and just about all of them saw a female rewarded with not only a nomination, but a WIN!
Suffice it to say, I would love to see redmayne get in, b/c he is stupendous in the film.
Wrong.
Murphy was nominated. But he didn't win (though he was actually the favorite. The theory goes that his allegedlly bad attitude, plus having Norbit being released around the same time as the Oscars, allowed Alan Arkin to beat him).
Murphy should have won. And could have won. I don't think he was denied the win because he was in a musical.
point taken. but again, only murphy & depp vs hudson, kidman, KZJ, QL, Cruz. Again, I would LOVE to see Redmayne get in. keeping hope alive!
Also John C. Reilly.
POINT TAKEN!!!! How could I forget him?!!!! Ok you guys are making me feel better about Redmayne's chances. Still queasy about jackman though.
Getting back to the actual buisness of the supporting actor race. A tweet from Neveldine Taylor (cinematographer and also director of the Jason Statham vehicle Crank) going crazy for Sam Jackson;
@neveldinetaylor
also, when you start to think Sam Jackson can only play Sam Jackson, you will be floored by him in Django #genius
Methinks Leo is royally fucked about now.
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