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    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyDarling View Post
    Bitch, please. You just not compared effing Chastain with those two. You have to be freaking kidding me!
    How could you possibly be upset at that considering you haven't seen the film?


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    My main issue with the opening 90 seconds is that it's a lame and, above all, totally unnecessary way to remind us that Bin Laden was a bad man, and an attempt to get us emotionally invested in the film.



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    Quote Originally Posted by RRA View Post
    I hate to do this because it's tasteless, but....


    Too soon?
    No. It's just that I've already listened to a lot of the phone calls. I've seen videos and pictures that I regret ever looking at (not of the towers, but of the victims)..

    I'm just done.

    I completely understand why Bigelow/Boal put it in the film, I'm just not looking forward to it. Then again, THR review says that the entire film is full of torture as well. So, Merry Christmas at the movies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurelius View Post
    My main issue with the opening 90 seconds is that it's a lame and, above all, totally unnecessary way to remind us that Bin Laden was a bad man, and an attempt to get us emotionally invested in the film.
    I like that we're debating something referenced in a review. Its one thing for most of us to complain about LINCOLN's opening corny scene, because we saw it.

    Benefit of a doubt, please folks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RRA View Post
    I like that we're debating something referenced in a review. Its one thing for most of us to complain about LINCOLN's opening corny scene, because we saw it.

    Benefit of a doubt, please folks?
    Oh, certainly. I'll go in with an open mind. Out of the Oscar contenders, it is most likely the one I will end up rooting for (mainly because I have very little interest in the others).

    That doesn't make such an opening less tacky, whatever the reason they put it there.



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    Hmmm.

    Zero Dark Thirty director Kathryn Bigelow and producer/writer Mark Boal tell EW that they could still return to an earlier hunt-for-Osama bin Laden movie that they had abandoned after the terrorist was killed in 2011. The duo behind Oscar-winning 2010 movie The Hurt Locker say they aren’t sure what their next project will be, or even if they’ll definitely continue to collaborate (“I hope so,” says Bigelow). But they won’t rule out the idea of returning to the previous movie at some point. Asked if reviving the film as a sort of ZDT prequel was a possibility, Boal responded, “Yeah, I think so. Why not? But I think the last thing [either of us] wants to do right now is talk about making another movie.” Bigelow, too, says she would “possibly” be interested in finishing the project.

    Bigelow and Boal were just a few months away from shooting the previous film — about the near-miss pursuit of bin Laden in Tora Bora in 2001 — when the world’s most-wanted man was discovered and killed in a compound in Pakistan last year. They quickly decided to set aside the finished script and start over on a new movie, which eventually became Zero Dark Thirty (that film opens in limited release on Dec. 19). “I love reporting, so being on a big story is really exciting to me,” says former war journalist Boal of his scramble to write a new script. “But nobody likes to throw out two years of work.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurelius View Post
    Oh, certainly. I'll go in with an open mind. Out of the Oscar contenders, it is most likely the one I will end up rooting for (mainly because I have very little interest in the others).

    That doesn't make such an opening less tacky, whatever the reason they put it there.
    I think what I'm trying to say is, maybe she could pull it off? I mean we're talking paper still.

    (I mean I'm pretty certain that LINCOLN opening on page was corny.)

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    There is no way to pull that off.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurelius View Post
    There is no way to pull that off.
    That sounds like a challenge.

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    Ugh, Im totally with Aurelius. No matter how good the rest is, that opening will sill be, for A LOT of us, tacky and embarrasing.


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    Zero Dark Thirty opens with 90 seconds or so of black screen accompanied by a soundtrack collage of emergency phone calls from people trapped in the Twin Towers; no need for the familiar visuals here.

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    I don't see what's wrong with that.

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    I'd rather that than the flashing images leading to motion sickness (which the beginning of Argo caused for me).
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    This Christmas certainly has its share of feel-good movies. You can decide whether to watch people being tortured, dying of tsunami, dying due to old age, dying due to poverty, people being enslaved, whipped and (raped?). You might also still catch a movie about an alcoholic or how capitalism has destroyed America. Plus plenty of docs about such cheerful subjects as wrongful prisonment etc. Funny how only a year ago people wondered whether GWTDT was too dark and depressing for a Christmas movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boondoggle View Post
    I don't think the first 90 seconds are meant to illicit emotions but rather give context
    You really think this needs any context?

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    As it has emerged instead, it could well be the most impressive film Bigelow has made, as well as possibly her most personal, as one keenly feels the drive of the filmmaker channeled through the intensity of Maya's character. The film's power steadily and relentlessly builds over its long course, to a point that is terrifically imposing and unshakable.
    Chastain carries the film in a way she's never been asked to do before. Denied the opportunity to provide psychological and emotional details for Maya, she nonetheless creates a character that proves indelible and deeply felt. The entire cast works in a realistic vein to fine effect.
    Oh man, I can't wait.

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    I don't know how could this beat Les Mis but it looks in good shape for a bunch of nomination and maybe grab the Oscar for screenplay.
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    I'm surprised no one has pointed out yet that Fahrenheit 9/11 already did the whole "Audio/No Visuals from 9/11" trick a whole eight years ago.

    That said, considering how promising the rest of the project sounds, the fact that so many are already judging it for a creative decision that takes up 90 second of a 150+ minute movie that you HAVEN'T EVEN SEEN YET IS...well actually it's pretty typical of us, but still, y'all are coming off as a little ridiculous.

    Anyway, this sounds very promising, though I wonder if the lack of emotionalism could be more alienating here than it was on Hurt Locker, which was at least 20-40 minutes shorter than this and probably more action-y and laser-focused than this will be. Still not sensing Picture/Directing. Chastain sounds like she still has a good shot, though I'd wait to see how precursors react - being the center of such a sprawling film is good, but it sounds like a very low-key performance still, which could mean a hard time igniting passion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan View Post
    I'm surprised no one has pointed out yet that Fahrenheit 9/11 already did the whole "Audio/No Visuals from 9/11" trick a whole eight years ago.
    Even before that there was Innaritu's short film from 11'09''01 - September 11.

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    Yeah, those early reviews are not that hot on Chastain, certainly not the winner's reviews.

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