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Thread: 'Amour' (Michael Haneke, 2012)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artimus View Post
    I guess the film is just more aimed at people Georges and Anne's age. Like you and Aurelius.



    And about the Ozu thing: I think Tokyo Story is an astute view on family dynamics, but I find it rather dull, especially in terms of character.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Artimus View Post
    I guess the film is just more aimed at people Georges and Anne's age. Like you and Aurelius.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurelius View Post
    And about the Ozu thing: I think Tokyo Story is an astute view on family dynamics, but I find it rather dull, especially in terms of character.
    This basically says it all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McTeague View Post
    This basically says it all.
    I knew you would agree with me!



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    Quote Originally Posted by erikdean View Post
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    I think this a really good film and the leads are brilliant.

    However, Haneke wanted us to believe that George and Anne could be anyone of us, and this just wasn't true. George and Anne were obviously wealthy which eliminates the majority of people of their age, and then George goes onto look after Anne which is also incredibly unbelievable he's not trained in this and the fact that people would let him carry out the care with no training is just ridiculous. Though, it's nowhere near as bad as the Descendants in which we were meant to believe George Clooney was your average dad, because all average dads have millions of dollars of prime Hawaiian land and a successful business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broad View Post
    I think this a really good film and the leads are brilliant.

    However, Haneke wanted us to believe that George and Anne could be anyone of us, and this just wasn't true. George and Anne were obviously wealthy which eliminates the majority of people of their age, and then George goes onto look after Anne which is also incredibly unbelievable he's not trained in this and the fact that people would let him carry out the care with no training is just ridiculous. Though, it's nowhere near as bad as the Descendants in which we were meant to believe George Clooney was your average dad, because all average dads have millions of dollars of prime Hawaiian land and a successful business.
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    What?

    Because two people can't share an opinion? Calling me McTeague is just beyond rude and insulting.

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    I was joking...

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    Orly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broad View Post
    Orly?
    Don't come back after being banned 5 times, whoever you are.

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    solopop.

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    OMG, I refuse to think it's just a coincidence that this happened during my ban. Who of you is pretending to be solopop.

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    What? Why did McTeague get banned?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zuranthium View Post
    What? Why did McTeague get banned?
    Read the thread in the Help forum.

    Unfortunately, it was just for a day .



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    It was moved to The Green Room! I just saw it.

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    Ok, sorry to ask about something as mundane as plot details, but because this was a straightforward film for the most part I think it's appropriate to ask:

    SPOILERS


    At the beginning of the film, the police have to break in, and find that tape has been blocking the cracks in the doorway. There's an odor present in the apartment, which causes one of the officers to open a window. We are then shown Anne's body, alone on the bed.

    At the end of the film, after killing Anne, we see Georges put up the tape, and then his two final scenes are the one where he captures the pigeon, and then the one where he hears sounds coming from the kitchen, sees Anne, and follows her out of the apartment.

    My question is: what actually happened here? Did Georges turn on the gas or something and suffocate? And if so, wouldn't he lie down on the bed next to his wife instead of that spare room? Obviously his final scene is some kind of near-death dream or "afterlife fantasy", and the pigeon scene is metaphorical and could also not be taken as literal.

    I know this doesn't really matter much in the end but I found it kind of odd. We're certainly not meant to assume he vanished into thin air, or left the apartment on his own under the delusion he was following his dead wife, and fell into the Seine or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lazarus View Post
    Ok, sorry to ask about something as mundane as plot details, but because this was a straightforward film for the most part I think it's appropriate to ask:

    SPOILERS


    At the beginning of the film, the police have to break in, and find that tape has been blocking the cracks in the doorway. There's an odor present in the apartment, which causes one of the officers to open a window. We are then shown Anne's body, alone on the bed.

    At the end of the film, after killing Anne, we see Georges put up the tape, and then his two final scenes are the one where he captures the pigeon, and then the one where he hears sounds coming from the kitchen, sees Anne, and follows her out of the apartment.

    My question is: what actually happened here? Did Georges turn on the gas or something and suffocate? And if so, wouldn't he lie down on the bed next to his wife instead of that spare room? Obviously his final scene is some kind of near-death dream or "afterlife fantasy", and the pigeon scene is metaphorical and could also not be taken as literal.

    I know this doesn't really matter much in the end but I found it kind of odd. We're certainly not meant to assume he vanished into thin air, or left the apartment on his own under the delusion he was following his dead wife, and fell into the Seine or something.
    I just assumed they found her first because he was in that little side room by the kitchen.

    The whole mystery lead-in bullshit was maybe my least favorite part of the film. Wholly unnecessary and misguided.

    Also the more I think about this movie the less I like it. It's kind of a jerk of a film.

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    That's what I assumed as well. But if he didn't want to go on living without her, why not die by her side? Rather eccentric.
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    Lazarus, I know what you mean.

    All lots of Spoilers:

    I kept assuming that he turned on the gas and died somewhere in the apartment. Maybe the room off the kitchen. But then you're right. Wouldn't he have lied down next to his wife? Or perhaps she was dead for quite a few days and the smell was too much. Was he taping up the doorway so that the smell of her body would not come out? Or was it to stop from any of the gas from leaking out? Or, did he just die in the room off of the kitchen from natural causes because his health looked like it was deteriorating quite rapidly?

    Also, I realize that when he did what he did to her ...That it was more knee jerk reaction and not pre meditated. She finally seemed at peace and he couldn't take it anymore. But I really wish he would have just turned on the gas and did her and/or both of them in that way. Or maybe give her an overdose of meds, and/or himself. Or anything but what he actually did. I just feel like the last thing he would have wanted would be for her to struggle and possibly understand what he was doing to her. Wouldn't he have wanted his love to go in a more peaceful manner without her knowing I.e., gas, pills. This still annoys me, a bit.

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