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Thread: 'Amour' (Michael Haneke, 2012)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melllvar View Post
    How is it so many of you guys have seen this already? I'd love to see this but probably won't get a chance to see it in the theater due to the lack of art movies that show at cinemas near my college.
    I try to see the movies that I want most at theaters but if a movie does not have an opening date in my country (which most art house movies don't have) I try to search them online. I got lucky with this one as somebody told me it was avalaible.

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    Eh, most of the arthouse film have already leaked this year. It's the American/British ones - Lincoln, Impossible, Django, Anna Karenina, Les Miz, SLP, ZDT, Master, Flight - that I'll have to wait until February to see.
    I know I've got a big ego, I really don't know why it's such a big deal, though.

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    This was devastating. One of the most raw movie-going experiences I've had in a long time. Maybe ever.

    The performances are incredible. I'm disappointed I'm joining Team Riva this late in the game because I thought she was extraordinary. As somebody who has seen his own grandmother (named Ann, even) go through many of the same things, this hit close to home. Trintigant was a heartbreaking hero.

    This one will linger with me for a while. Easily one of the year's best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cryteno View Post
    Do not hate me this is a good movie but slightly overrated. And i don't understand the love for Riva's performance. It is a good performance,though. If somebody will get award recognition, it should be Trintignant .
    Yeah, I wasn't to fond of the film, it's far more interested in what happens to the characters than developing their relationship or characterization and it's rather cold considering the subject matter. The acting is superb though which keeps the film afloat, but I hated Trintigant's character his behavior was so annoying especially with his daughter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Dmitri-Yuriev View Post
    The acting is superb though which keeps the film afloat, but I hated Trintigant's character his behavior was so annoying especially with his daughter.
    I just don't really know how to respond to this except to say that, while it's obviously your opinion, Georges behavior throughout the entire story was a model for anyone that could possibly have to endure this. He was gentle and careful with her (except for that slap lol) and never raised his voice to her or showed anger but instead gave Anne physical and emotional support. As far as his treatment of Eva goes, he was merely defending his right to keep Anne out of the hospital and care home, like she asked him to do. Eva was bratty and judgmental towards her father and incredibly unsupportive of him.

    I just finished watching this a few minutes ago so the wounds of seeing it are fresh for me. This is a towering achievement in its subtlety and thoughtfulness, in what we see and what we don't see. Although Riva has garnered almost all of the praise I can't heap enough on Trintigant, who was incredible.




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    Quote Originally Posted by erikdean View Post
    I just don't really know how to respond to this except to say that, while it's obviously your opinion, Georges behavior throughout the entire story was a model for anyone that could possibly have to endure this. He was gentle and careful with her (except for that slap lol) and never raised his voice to her or showed anger but instead gave Anne physical and emotional support. As far as his treatment of Eva goes, he was merely defending his right to keep Anne out of the hospital and care home, like she asked him to do. Eva was bratty and judgmental towards her father and incredibly unsupportive of him.

    I just finished watching this a few minutes ago so the wounds of seeing it are fresh for me. This is a towering achievement in its subtlety and thoughtfulness, in what we see and what we don't see. Although Riva has garnered almost all of the praise I can't heap enough on Trintigant, who was incredible.
    In regard to the hospital I agree, but I felt he was selfish in not wanting the daughter to see her mother and he also ignored her phone calls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cryteno View Post
    Do not hate me this is a good movie but slightly overrated. And i don't understand the love for Riva's performance. It is a good performance,though. If somebody will get award recognition, it should be Trintignant .
    Having lost a grandparent to a severe case of dementia a few years back who did the exact same things Anne went through, Riva's performance was DISTURBINGLY SPOT-ON in watching a person fall apart mentally .
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    Quote Originally Posted by erikdean View Post
    I just don't really know how to respond to this except to say that, while it's obviously your opinion, Georges behavior throughout the entire story was a model for anyone that could possibly have to endure this. He was gentle and careful with her (except for that slap lol) and never raised his voice to her or showed anger but instead gave Anne physical and emotional support. As far as his treatment of Eva goes, he was merely defending his right to keep Anne out of the hospital and care home, like she asked him to do. Eva was bratty and judgmental towards her father and incredibly unsupportive of him.

    I just finished watching this a few minutes ago so the wounds of seeing it are fresh for me. This is a towering achievement in its subtlety and thoughtfulness, in what we see and what we don't see. Although Riva has garnered almost all of the praise I can't heap enough on Trintigant, who was incredible.
    All of this.

    Criticizing the character's behavior is kind of insane. It was so ridiculously accurate and spot-on that it made me almost uncomfortable.

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    I agree. Even when he slaps her, you can fully understand where it's coming from.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Dmitri-Yuriev View Post
    In regard to the hospital I agree, but I felt he was selfish in not wanting the daughter to see her mother and he also ignored her phone calls.
    Are you saying you don't understand why he did that? Do you not remember her reaction the first time she saw/talked to her? He was doing what he thought best for her and that would create the least amount of stress on the three of them. It was not personally selfish at all, he was thinking of Eva and Anne more than himself in that moment. In every moment.




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    Quote Originally Posted by erikdean View Post
    Are you saying you don't understand why he did that? Do you not remember her reaction the first time she saw/talked to her? He was doing what he thought best for her and that would create the least amount of stress on the three of them. It was not personally selfish at all, he was thinking of Eva and Anne more than himself in that moment. In every moment.
    In a way I understand his point, but again it goes back to him not wanting to deal with his daughter's reaction; I don't think he had a right to keep his daughter from seeing her mother. Also, he was so rude to her when she came to visit; what did he expect when he doesn't pick up the phone the daughter was bound to visit, yet he tells her she should have told him in advance.

    As for the daughter being bratty and judgemental as you stated in your previous post, I did not see her that way. I thought she was genuinely concerned for both her parents, she was thinking her mother would have better care at a facility and considering her father's age she thought caring for her alone would be too much of a toll. In my opinion, she was correct considering what happens in the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Dmitri-Yuriev View Post

    As for the daughter being bratty and judgemental as you stated in your previous post, I did not see her that way. I thought she was genuinely concerned for both her parents, she was thinking her mother would have better care at a facility and considering her father's age she thought caring for her alone would be too much of a toll. In my opinion, she was correct considering what happens in the end.
    Well, this is where we will fundamentally disagree because it's exactly the end that shows how wrong she was. Completely wrong. What you're saying is that it would have been better for Georges to let Anne go to a hospital or care facility and simply wither away and die there rather than at home, with him, as he promised her.

    That's what you're saying.




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    Quote Originally Posted by erikdean View Post
    Well, this is where we will fundamentally disagree because it's exactly the end that shows how wrong she was. Completely wrong. What you're saying is that it would have been better for Georges to let Anne go to a hospital or care facility and simply wither away and die there rather than at home, with him, as he promised her.

    That's what you're saying.
    I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, I think what he does in the end was deplorable, I still can't get it out of my mind. However, I don't want to get into an argument about whether or not his action was right or wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Dmitri-Yuriev View Post
    I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, I think what he does in the end was deplorable, I still can't get it out of my mind. However, I don't want to get into an argument about whether or not his action was right or wrong.
    I think it's a pure act of love. This is how deep his love for her goes.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Dmitri-Yuriev View Post
    I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, I think what he does in the end was deplorable, I still can't get it out of my mind. However, I don't want to get into an argument about whether or not his action was right or wrong.
    Well, I do. It's the core of the film and I think you couldn't be more wrong. I believe, as Aurelius says, it was a pure act of love. Ironically, just hours before I saw the film last night I read an article in our local paper about an 81-year old man took his dying 86-year old wife to their favorite park to assist in her suicide and then kill himself as well. He was able to end her life but failed to end his own before being found. It was profoundly tragic and devastating in its complete love and utter sadness. That's exactly how Amour felt.




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    To elaborate on this point a little bit, the relationship is eerily similar to that of my grandparents. Caring for his wife became entirely too much for my grandpa and he began threatening suicide. We had to move my grandma into an assisted care facility to prevent more loss than was already coming.

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    I don't know much about film production, but how can this film have a budget of almost 8 million euros?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jali View Post
    I don't know much about film production, but how can this film have a budget of almost 8 million euros?
    Pee pads are expensive?




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    Quote Originally Posted by Jali View Post
    I don't know much about film production, but how can this film have a budget of almost 8 million euros?
    That's probably Isabelle Huppert's paycheck.

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