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    15 19.48%
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Thread: Predict this year's hottest mess, Pt: 2

  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by guany View Post
    Okay. If hot mess has nothing to do with the Oscars, why is this in Film Predictions? Shouldn't this be in Film Lists and Polls? I'm not trying to be obnoxious, I just guess that the location of this thread has contributed to my opinion.
    Yeah, I think you're taking the location a little too seriously.
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    I'm not sure...

    Anna Karenina was generally expected to be a box office flop and not gain many nominations outside of the techs. Most 'good' () predictors were not predicting it for best picture (myself included). At best some thought it had an outside chance at the beginning of the year. The critical reception was widely expected to be mixed. The outcome was a moderate box office success (especially for an art house/period film), and it finished in 63 ('favourable') on MC. It will undoubtedly gain oscar noms for the techs. I suppose the 'mess' part could be considered by those who disliked the theatrical concept...

    Les Mis was expected to be a universally conquering awards juggernaut and BO hit. BO remains to be seen, but the critical reception has been weak. Most predictors were saying 8-12 nominations, including BP, BD and about three acting noms. There is no doubt that it will under-perform in this aspect. On the other hand, it could still manage a BP nom and an acting win (as well as a big BO hit), so it would be difficult to call it a 'failure'...although on the face of it Hoopers directing style does look like a bit of a 'mess'....

    Trouble With the Curve and Hyde Park on Hudson seem to have sunk without trace, although they seem too lame to even bother considering 'hot messes'...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurelius View Post
    For me, a hot mess has nothing to do with Oscar nominations or wins. It's all about simply being a mess.
    Then reviews don't matter either and all it matters is watching the film and deciding for yourself that this is an irredeemable hot mess. Which is something nobody calling Les Miz a hot mess in this thread, including you, have done:
    Quote Originally Posted by Aurelius View Post
    All of this just to harp on Knightley again. So sad.

    Les Miz, easily.
    At least guany is consistent with his own idea of what a hot mess is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McTeague View Post
    Then reviews don't matter either and all it matters is watching the film and deciding for yourself that this is an irredeemable hot mess. Which is something nobody calling Les Miz a hot mess in this thread, including you, have done:
    That's why it's called 'Predict this year's hottest mess', i.e. what do you expect to be a hot mess. I will see Les Miz, and I expect to find it a hot mess (not the hottest. Nothing can beat The Paperboy, can it?), so that's why I'm predicting it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurelius View Post
    That's why it's called 'Predict this year's hottest mess', i.e. what do you expect to be a hot mess. I will see Les Miz, and I expect to find it a hot mess (not the hottest. Nothing can beat The Paperboy, can it?), so that's why I'm predicting it.
    Nice try, but the context of the conversation was already different. We were talking about "now that everything's been seen, which ended up being the hottest mess?". And that's when you said "Les Mis, easily". So fail, don't try to run way like you did the other day pretending you don't vote for the actors and actresses in your favorite movies of the year.

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    LOL .

    The general critical response points at it being a mess though, no? Plus the fact that it's a musical, and all of the horrid clips we are seeing so far. It's a mess by definition.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurelius View Post
    LOL .

    The general critical response points at it being a mess though, no? Plus the fact that it's a musical, and all of the horrid clips we are seeing so far. It's a mess by definition.
    Exhibit… Z already? As to how all the backlash against the film was pre-ordered.



    LOL I’d love it if you somehow ended up loving this. YOU WILL JOIN IN OUR CRUSADE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McTeague View Post
    Exhibit… Z already? As to how all the backlash against the film was pre-ordered.



    LOL I’d love it if you somehow ended up loving this. YOU WILL JOIN IN OUR CRUSADE.
    Who knows, who knows? Though chances are small: I've only ever loved one stage-to-film musical (Evita), and that's mostly because I love the music. But I don't know anything other than I Dreamed A Dream, so who knows?



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