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    9 11.69%
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    6 7.79%
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    15 19.48%
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Thread: Predict this year's hottest mess, Pt: 2

  1. #61
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    We just didn't get a real hot mess this year.

    Leaving a screening of The Paperboy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kissfromarose View Post
    We just didn't get a real hot mess this year.
    How about a certain Oscar-nominated directors follow up to his Oscar winning breakthrough movie?

    No. Not Les Miz, but The Paperboy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kissfromarose View Post
    We just didn't get a real hot mess this year.
    It was very anticlimatic when it was postponed to next year, but we had it.

    Les Miz seems very hotmessy right now, but like, it'll still receive so many nods that, no way. Unless it severely underperforms. I'd consider it the true hot mess if Jackman, Hooper (likely) and things like cinemtography failed and it only got like, Picture, Hathaway and 4 techs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurelius View Post
    All of this just to harp on Knightley again. So sad.

    Les Miz, easily.
    Eh, relative to expectations, sure, but even the reviews make this seem more divisive than a hot mess.

  5. #65
    Anna Karenina didn't underperform, it's going to do did exactly what it was expected to do at the beginning of the season. Techs and that's it. Though I guess a lot of people did predict Knightley including myself briefly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by makemeameteor View Post
    Because hot messes never get nominated for/win Oscars?
    When I think of the year's hottest mess, I think of something that truly failed. A Best Picture nomination (and a win in one of the top eight categories) isn't an absolute failure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guany View Post
    When I think of the year's hottest mess, I think of something that truly failed. A Best Picture nomination (and a win in one of the top eight categories) isn't an absolute failure.
    This. I mean, if we're talking hot mess then films like Nine and The Lovely Bones come to mind.

  8. #68
    The New York Yankees may have made the playoffs last year, but they didn't win the World Series so it was a failure. For a movie like Les Mis or ELAIC last year it is similar in that, even if it still gets nominated for BP, to fail to win or be a contender for the win is a failure based on the expectations they had pre-release.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rage Colored Glasses View Post
    The New York Yankees may have made the playoffs last year, but they didn't win the World Series so it was a failure. For a movie like Les Mis or ELAIC last year it is similar in that, even if it still gets nominated for BP, to fail to win or be a contender for the win is a failure based on the expectations they had pre-release.
    So then, The Master is an epic hot mess failure too, huh. And Life of Pi?

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    Honestly though, the hottest mess this year is obviously This is 40, since in Dirkland it was locked up for an Adapted Screenplay nomination and Mann was getting nominated in Supporting Actress.

  11. #71
    No The Master is worse because it won't get in for BP as much as I love it haha.

    For real though, was it ever considered a contender for the win in the same way that Les Mis was?
    Last edited by Rage Colored Glasses; 12-18-2012 at 02:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rage Colored Glasses View Post
    No The Master is worse because it won't get in for BP as much as I love it haha.

    For real though, was it ever considered a contender for the win in the same way that Les Mis was?
    Um, yes...by many. In fact, even more so. Like, only Erik, McTeague and myself were ever convinced in Les Mis being the one to beat.

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    For me, a hot mess has nothing to do with Oscar nominations or wins. It's all about simply being a mess.



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  14. #74
    Maybe I'm misremembering, but a lot of people including me thought it could be the Social Network/ZDT critics awards powerhouse and top 3 BP contender, but I don't remember thinking that it could go all the way to the win, but that's just me.

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    Go look back at the 'what will win' thread from like six months ago. 90% of AD was going batshit for The Master

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    When I think of "the year's hottest mess," I always think in the context of the Oscar race. That's what this thread is about; it's in the Oscar predictions subforum, after all.

    Previous hot messes include things like The Good Shepherd, All the King's Men, Australia, etc. Films that were expected to get Picture, Director, and a couple of Acting nominations. Maybe a lot of people weren't expecting that for Anna Karenina and the Knightmares were just extremely vocal, but it sure seemed like people thought Anna Karenina was going to get a bunch of major nominations including one for Jude Law. Hyde Park on Hudson, to me, always felt like an acting-only film... a small minority were only ever predicting it to get a BP nod.

    Les Mis is still going to get a Best Picture nomination, a win for Anne Hathaway, and probably a nod for Hugh Jackman (not to mention multiple techs). The film may suck, but it's not the year's hottest mess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurelius View Post
    For me, a hot mess has nothing to do with Oscar nominations or wins. It's all about simply being a mess.
    This. A hot mess is a hot mess. I'm not going to suddenly go, "Oh, I guess this isn't a mess anymore, the Oscars nominated it!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by guany View Post
    When I think of "the year's hottest mess," I always think in the context of the Oscar race. That's what this thread is about; it's in the Oscar predictions subforum, after all.

    Previous hot messes include things like The Good Shepherd, All the King's Men, Australia, etc. Films that were expected to get Picture, Director, and a couple of Acting nominations. Maybe a lot of people weren't expecting that for Anna Karenina and the Knightmares were just extremely vocal, but it sure seemed like people thought Anna Karenina was going to get a bunch of major nominations including one for Jude Law. Hyde Park on Hudson, to me, always felt like an acting-only film... a small minority were only ever predicting it to get a BP nod.

    Les Mis is still going to get a Best Picture nomination, a win for Anne Hathaway, and probably a nod for Hugh Jackman (not to mention multiple techs). The film may suck, but it's not the year's hottest mess.
    Going by this logic, The Paperboy is not the year's hottest mess, because Nicole Kidman will get nominated for it. That's just plain wrong. Anybody who has seen the film can attest it leaves everything else in the dust when it comes to hot messiness.



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    Okay. If hot mess has nothing to do with the Oscars, why is this in Film Predictions? Shouldn't this be in Film Lists and Polls? I'm not trying to be obnoxious, I just guess that the location of this thread has contributed to my opinion.

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    It's w_o_v's fault. He's such a hot mess.



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