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Thread: Holy Motors (Carax, 2012)

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    This is beyond. veritas's Avatar
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    What could I possibly say about this that hasn't already been said? The best movie of 2012, of...I don't know, at least of all the films I've ever seen in theatres? Perhaps? I mean...e-x-t-r-a-o-r-d-i-n-a-r-y stuff.

    Knew nothing going in other than Lavant's performance was apparently legendary and--yep. Yep, yep, yep.

    Any possible criticism against it will fall deaf against my ears.

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    HUGE SCANDAL FOREVER Jonathan's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Artimus View Post
    No, it absolutely is NOT. You should not. They will almost 100% certainly not like it. It'll be a waste of their time and money.
    Quote Originally Posted by Spielberg_Fan View Post
    Agreed. And it will just make things miserable for you because you will know that they hate it while you're watching it.
    Funny you guys should mention this, because I saw this with a friend and his girlfriend who lived within the area of the theater I saw this at, but they're FAR from being cinephiles - he said he pretty much never watches foreign/art films - and they seemed to like it? At the very least they seemed to be into the movie, if weirded out at times ( The motion capture sex scene and Lavant's erect penis being the main parts ). Afterward my friend said it "makes me want to reflect on, like, life..."

    Personally, this was easily the best movie I've seen from 2012, and the most involving movie I've seen since at least The Tree of Life. I'm shocked that it lived up to the eight months of hype I've been through!
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    Quote Originally Posted by veritas View Post
    What could I possibly say about this that hasn't already been said? The best movie of 2012, of...I don't know, at least of all the films I've ever seen in theatres? Perhaps? I mean...e-x-t-r-a-o-r-d-i-n-a-r-y stuff.

    Knew nothing going in other than Lavant's performance was apparently legendary and--yep. Yep, yep, yep.

    Any possible criticism against it will fall deaf against my ears.
    How many "best films of the year.period" have you seen already, litte~v?

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    This is beyond. veritas's Avatar
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    Me denying the fact that I tend to overpraise movies immediately after seeing them would be ridiculous, but let me tell you something: mama's not playing around with this one.


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    Quote Originally Posted by veritas View Post
    Me denying the fact that I tend to overpraise movies immediately after seeing them would be ridiculous, but let me tell you something: mama's not playing around with this one.

    Great to know, lil~V! This is really one of the greatest things to happen in film this year.


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    This isn't a film, this is an experience! I doubt I will ever have one quite like this.

    An absolute masterpiece in every form of the word.

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    Omg, I just realized this is out on Blu-Ray!



    I promise I will actually watch it this time!
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    Tickle, tickle Thomas's Avatar
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    Yeah, this is the best film of 2012. Yet I have no clue what it is about.

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    This is about the many colors of life.

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    Agreed. Extraordinary unique experience. Thank God for Leos Carax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McTeague View Post
    Is that YOUR opinion on my posting style? Because you're making it sound like if I argue it and say I don't post like that, I'd be plain wrong.

    But honestly, I think that this comes from the fact that I obsessively try to put my finger on the things I dislike and not to be vague about it, so I use a lot of examples and comparisons and particulars of the film, and it may sound like I use them as “evidences”. Please read them as examples of instances in which I’ve felt something wrong with something, not as evidences by which I try to prove to you that I’m right.
    We should start a thread to discuss the act of film criticism itself.

    Because that would prevent this sort of thing from ever happening again.

    ...

    But, seriously, aside from qualifying every statement ever person ever makes as their own opinion about a film, solely their own opinion and solely about the film, regardless of how any grammatical, idiomatic, or semantic errors or confusions may arise - this will always happen unless people simply regard all posts about film as EITHER this OR as absurd, pointless, and/or naive. This is not to say that I have never made any posts which should be seen in such a light, but it is to say that such posts should be treated as such and disregarded as frivolous. And if they are merely one person's opinion about a film, it is frivolous to allow them to function as an inflammatory red herring.

    The day this happens, though, there will be paradise on earth. Until then, there will be discussions about film discussion. Also, people will be burnt at the stake.

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    Only Gosling Forgives erikdean's Avatar
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    You are so fucking boring.




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    Quote Originally Posted by erikdean View Post
    You are so fucking boring.
    Don't take this the wrong way, but can you please show me one post of yours worth reading?

    I hope that you take this statement in the following way: I was intrigued by the implication of your post given that I cannot think of a single post of yours that I have retained as worthwhile, and I am intrigued to see if you would be able to find any of your posts that you think I, or even anyone else, would find worth reading, given that you find it so important as to call out exactly how you feel about others' posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeanRZEJ View Post
    Don't take this the wrong way, but can you please show me one post of yours worth reading?
    I can do that if you like.

    Quote Originally Posted by erikdean View Post
    You are so fucking boring.

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    Only Gosling Forgives erikdean's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeanRZEJ View Post
    Don't take this the wrong way, but can you please show me one post of yours worth reading?

    I hope that you take this statement in the following way: I was intrigued by the implication of your post given that I cannot think of a single post of yours that I have retained as worthwhile, and I am intrigued to see if you would be able to find any of your posts that you think I, or even anyone else, would find worth reading, given that you find it so important as to call out exactly how you feel about others' posts.
    Well, I've got almost 26,000 so there must be at least one or two.

    My point in my comment is that you are utterly humorless and exist only to appear/feel smarter or superior to everyone else here. The problem is that you're the only one who thinks that. You might think about loosening up a bit and having some fun, it makes more a much more enjoyable experience here.




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    4 month later I still don't know if I loved it or hated it. There was so much to love and so much to hate. The bizarreness of the second half of the Eva Mendes chapter didn't do it for me, but the Kylie bit was heartbreaking. And the sex scene was sublime and disturbingly sexy.

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    Orphan, Fool JeanRZEJ's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by erikdean View Post
    Well, I've got almost 26,000 so there must be at least one or two.

    My point in my comment is that you are utterly humorless and exist only to appear/feel smarter or superior to everyone else here. The problem is that you're the only one who thinks that. You might think about loosening up a bit and having some fun, it makes more a much more enjoyable experience here.
    But, like, look at my posts?

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    Just had my first viewing of the film and it certainly is a trip. As soon as it was over I wanted to see it again, as I'm not sure what it is exactly that I just saw.
    Immediate thoughts:
    It's entrancing. I don't think I expected to be quite so drawn into the film and much of that can be credited to Mr. Lavant, whose performance is a stunner. I'm not fully decided on the film itself, but at the moment, I think it's endlessly fascinating and unabashedly strange but it never completely came together for me. There are many pieces that work and are interesting, but the episodic nature of the film tended to dilute what I think could have been a more focused narrative. This isn't to say that a film with this sort of structure can't work, it's just that I felt like the film continuously jerked around (more increasingly in the last hour especially), making the whole affair more complicated and insane than it needed to be. Now, I enjoyed the insanity- I thought it made for a thoroughly interesting experience, but scenes like the motion capture sequence, the shooting of the banker, the scene with the chimps or the part at the end with the limousines talking took me out of it and made me step back and reconsider what the film is trying to do. There are many things that it could be about: the beauty and tragedy of the act, the idea of life as an ever-turning, ever-changing wheel, being invented and reinvented again and again, a history of cinema art or something to that effect, identity- the many people we can be. Or, it can be none of those things. What I felt it lacked was a unifying force pulling all of its individual pieces together.
    But it's far from bad! There's a magic to the film unlike anything I've seen this past year, an overall feeling of innovation and energy that truly impressed and engaged me. The imagery is superb- at times gorgeous and nightmarish, always dreamlike and otherworldly in the best possible way.
    I'm certain that this film is going to ripen upon further viewings, as I'm sure that I haven't even begun to grasp what it is exactly that Carax is doing with all of this.
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    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to flibber again.

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    I finally saw this movie last night I'm still reading the thread to see what ppl think of it but with me, the movie speaks about identity - or the lack of it - in ppl's lives. It 's also ironic how Oscar lives so many lives / plays many parts and yet when it comes to his home (also his last act in the day) he doesn't have a life anymore, the cars even live better lives than the actors they carry.

    There was a Q&A with the movie's producer Maurice Tinchant (a very nice guy, however his English is not good >.< I wish he'd speak FR and have a translator). I stayed for a very short time as it was late (the movie was longer than I expected) and my friend lost her key. Maurice also seems more interested in the producing aspects of the movie, rather than the writing etc - he has contact with Steven Spielberg. Juliette Binoche and Kate Moss were originally offered the roles of Kylie Minogue and Eva Mendes, respectively. Leos Carax's wife committed suicide (from what I remember hearing) a week before the shooting started

    And I've just realized this: Leos Caraz

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