Please, Odi, don't even give such putrid and pathetic attempts to discredit the Glory of Streep such legitimacy. It's just sad, puerile spitballing that stems from the very unbecoming, seething jealousy that bounces off our Streepian aura that we, as Streep fans, have the luxory of having.Originally Posted by City Lights
Remeber, Odi:
Hahaha...the ridiculous things some people say
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http://thinkprogress.org/alyssa/2012...ing/?mobile=ncHanding Streep all of these roles without seriously considering other actresses in her age range puts Streep in the same position as Will Smith. Her prominence lets the industry simultaneously say that of course they take women of her age seriously, while also suggesting that no other actress would be able to do what Streep does, so they don’t have to cast or build movies around anyone else. They’re both ways for the industry to prove that they aren’t uncomfortable with diversity per se while avoiding making any substantive changes that would make movies demonstrably more diverse both in who they star and what kinds of stories they tell. I don’t begrudge Streep work in general. But she’s not actually the best actress for every single role for a woman over 50.
LOL That article was ridiculous. And WTF at the coded "diversity" buzz word that he is laying at Meryl Streep's feet. Apparently, because Meryl Streep continues to work, and make one or two movies a year, just as she always has, it has singlehandedly crippled the entire actress industry and prevented "diversity" from flourishing.
So, apparently, according to this article and some of the similar AD sentiments, the only way this can stop is for Meryl Streep to a. stop working entirely b. start doing horrible movies and bombs the way all her other contemporaries have alread done for the last 20 years which is why they don't have careers anymore. But don't worry - Meryl actually knows how to manage a career, and loves working, so neither of those 2 things are going to happen, so by all means, continue to remain pressed.
Huh. I didn't realize Meryl played every single female character that's 50+.
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Yeah, I don't really think that working with Nancy Meyers or Nora Ephron constitutes advocacy for women filmmakers. Those ladies work regularly in Hollywood, and I'm sure they're loaded. (If anything, it's more like enabling mediocre talent.) I wouldn't say Streep needs to form a production company, but she could do something similar to what Tilda Swinton did with We Need to Talk About Kevin. I mean, Swinton isn't nearly the "name" Streep is, but she used what clout she has to help develop a project with challenging material and to secure funding for a very talented female director who'd gone nearly a decade without work. I didn't even particularly care for Kevin, but that, to me, is championing women in filmmaking. Granted, Meryl probably isn't being bombarded with offers from the likes of Claire Denis or Kathryn Bigelow, but Jane Campion did offer her the Barbara Hershey role in The Portrait of a Lady, and she turned it down. (Incidentally, she also turned down Black Swan, which eventually went to Hershey.)
Streep doesn't have much reason to be dissatisfied in her career, what with her gazillion Oscar nominations and the fact that she gets offered every decent over-50 role. She's obviously gotten a lot of validation for her career choices, but I definitely think she could stand to be more adventurous.
Gracious, generous Meryl single handedly keeping Barbara Hershey viable once per decade, out of the kindness of her heart - how much more of a benefactor do you want her to be for hasbeen actresses?
No, no - don't thank me, Barbara, let no one ever say I'm not for DIVERSITY in Hollywood!
Gracious, generous Meryl single handedly keeping Barbara Hershey viable once per decade, out of the kindness of her heart - how much more of a benefactor do you want her to be for hasbeen actresses?
No, no - don't thank me, Barbara, let no one ever say I'm not for DIVERSITY in Hollywood!
Will Oscar have Riva Fever?
Say what you want about Kathleen Turner or Sigourney Weaver...but Sissy Spacek is not a failed actress by any means.
Oh definitely not. She's had some great roles since 2000 for sure. But in reality what roles would Sissy replace Streep? Sissy is great, but her range is nowhere near that of Streep.Say what you want about Kathleen Turner or Sigourney Weaver...but Sissy Spacek is not a failed actress by any means.
Will Oscar have Riva Fever?
Blasty, your posts over the last couple of pages make me love you all the more. You're quite right about us Streepians:
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And LMAO at the Streepers. She'll probably lose again for the fifteenth time this year. And next year. And next year. Don't worry, she'll win Supporting when she plays Rooney Mara's great-grandmother in 2019.
Leaving a screening of The Paperboy.
I do think Spacek would be a better choice for Violet Weston.
To each his own. I'd prefer Sissy's streak of great performances in Badlands, Carrie, 3 Women, Coal Miner's Daughter, Raggedy Man, Missing, and Crimes of the Heart, to most of Meryl's Oscar nominations. Obviously Sophie's Choice, A Cry in the Dark, and Bridges of Madison County are brilliant work, to name a few...but I think it's just a matter of personal opinion. I think Spacek has tons of range, as demonstrated by her career overall. If we're talking just post 2000, well yeah. But In the Bedroom >> Doubt, Devil Wears Prada, Julie & Julia. Again, in my opinion.
LOL what has Sissy Spacek to do with anything in this conversation? No one has even mentioned her or anything untill you brought her up Mike. In fact, since the only thing mentioned were unnamed hasbeens whose careers are all washed up, I'd say you're the one who has insulted Sissy by rushing to her defense after I said that.
Originally ReadyforMyCloseup said:
To which, City Lights responded:Someone will invariably argue that many projects would not be greenlighted without her participation, but that's certainly not the case with August: Osage County. The horse woman would have been enough to get asses in seats, allowing for Kathleen Turner, Sissy Spacek, Dianne Wiest, Susan Sarandon, or Sigourney Weaver, among many others, to play Violet.Are you being for serious? Streep should give up her career so other failed actresses can have another shot (and likely fail again)? No way, man!
Now since City Lights responded to ReadyforMyCloseup's post as a quote, I figured City Lights was referring to all of those ladies that RFMCU listed as "failed actresses."
Anyway, it may have been a misinterpretation on my part, but that's how she entered the conversation. I personally didn't feel Sissy deserved to be in a list that included Kathleen Turner and Sigourney Weaver, that's all, if we were talking about has-been 80's/90's actresses.
I mostly ignored Ready for My Closeup's venemous post once I saw how anti-Meryl he was being.
Anyway, Sissy clearly has had the best, most respected career of any actress after Meryl Streep from the era they both share.
Don't get me wrong, Meryl is a brilliant actress. Occasionally though it would be nice to see Sissy, Susan, Jessica, Glenn, and Kathy have a chance too (among others of course). I'm not begrudging Meryl for that at all...she's allowed to have a career and as others have said, half of those projects probably wouldn't have even happened since Meryl is a box office star, and the others just aren't (just look at Albert Nobbs if you want proof lol). I just wish Hollywood films were friendlier to older women, I guess, that's all, not just Meryl. But...oh well.
God, Sissy Spacek's couple of scenes in The Help (especially her laugh when Hilly ate the shit pie) make me miss her sooo much.
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