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    There's a new interview with Alice Munro on the New Yorker website, which is a rare treat, since she doesn't do many interviews. (I don't know if it was done over e-mail or the phone or whatever, but I was especially tickled by the use of all-caps for emphasis!) Unfortunately, and perhaps not surprisingly, she restates her intention to retire from writing. She threatened to do so a few years ago, but kept going. This time, though, I'm more inclined to believe it. She had two scheduled public appearances in Toronto this year (one during an arts festival in the summer and another just last month on the publication of Dear Life), and cancelled both. She's said to be not in the best health. Hopefully, this won't be her last collection, but if it is, it certainly ends her career on a graceful note. (But let's not even think it!)

    Speaking of literary retirements, the big news recently is that Philip Roth has officially put down the pen. Roth is reportedly in very fine health, but seems to have lost the inclination to keep writing novels. I generally run hot and cold on Roth, but it's always sad when a distinguished artist stops producing work, whatever the reason. Though, I thought his last book, Nemesis, was pretty good, so if that's his swan song, it's certainly not a bad one.

    Finally, Louise Erdrich won the National Book Award for The Round House, which I haven't read, but which is turning out to be one of the year's big American novels. (Philip Roth, incidentally, mentions loving it in that NY Times article above.) It's a nice coming-out for Erdrich, who remains relatively under-the-radar for such a feted author -- she's written a ton of books, won the National Book Critics Circle Award and been a Pulitzer Prize finalist. The Round House has invited comparisons to To Kill a Mockingbird, and though it's very rare for a novel to do the NBA/Pulitzer double, I think Erdrich is very much in contention for the Pulitzer too.

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    Picked up Munro's Runaway, based on the recommendations of this thread and elsewhere. Will likely read it on my flight tomorrow.

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    I found The Round House kinda boring, juvenile, scattered narrative-wise with extraneous plot points and characters, and with a total cop-out of an ending.

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    So I just finishedDorothy Baker's Cassandra at the Wedding which was wow. NYRB classics continues to impress me with their book selections. The book is about a young woman returning home to the family estate to celebrate her twin sister's wedding which she personally considers a huge mistake but delves off into all these sorts of lovely directions reflecting on family and sisterhood and identity and self. It reminded me a lot of Christopher Isherwood's A Single Man and Sylvia Plath's The Bell Jar and afterwards I looked it up and found that all three were written within a few years of each other. Loved it, very quietly unsettling.

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    I bought This is How You Lose Her tonight. Can't wait to read it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bryan1311 View Post
    I bought This is How You Lose Her tonight. Can't wait to read it.
    So excited for this.

    I am currently reading Middlesex (finally). It is wonderful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mmelissa View Post
    So I just finishedDorothy Baker's Cassandra at the Wedding which was wow. NYRB classics continues to impress me with their book selections. The book is about a young woman returning home to the family estate to celebrate her twin sister's wedding which she personally considers a huge mistake but delves off into all these sorts of lovely directions reflecting on family and sisterhood and identity and self. It reminded me a lot of Christopher Isherwood's A Single Man and Sylvia Plath's The Bell Jar and afterwards I looked it up and found that all three were written within a few years of each other. Loved it, very quietly unsettling.
    I read Cassandra at the Wedding too, and really liked it! It's a clever, psychologically probing novel that has a lot going on beneath the surface.

    I love NYRB classics. One day, if I have a lot of free time, one crazy reading project I'd like to embark on is to read the entire NYRB catalogue. They really do amazing work, bringing these neglected classics back into print (in very handsome editions). This year, I read The Outward Room by Millen Brand and Skylark by Dezso Kosztolanyi, and both were excellent. I'm particularly grateful for their having introduced me to the work of Stefan Zweig and Robert Walser, who have become two of my favorite writers (Zweig's Beware of Pity is probably my favorite NYRB title that I've read so far, a real masterpiece).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cricket View Post
    I read Cassandra at the Wedding too, and really liked it! It's a clever, psychologically probing novel that has a lot going on beneath the surface.

    I love NYRB classics. One day, if I have a lot of free time, one crazy reading project I'd like to embark on is to read the entire NYRB catalogue. They really do amazing work, bringing these neglected classics back into print (in very handsome editions). This year, I read The Outward Room by Millen Brand and Skylark by Dezso Kosztolanyi, and both were excellent. I'm particularly grateful for their having introduced me to the work of Stefan Zweig and Robert Walser, who have become two of my favorite writers (Zweig's Beware of Pity is probably my favorite NYRB title that I've read so far, a real masterpiece).
    That's funny, I was totally thinking the same thing with regards to reading the whole NYRB classics catalogue! I have so much admiration for whoever picks out the books because they're so fantastic. They do really amazing work with translations as well. I normally find something lacking in translated works, but I recently read Eileen Chang's Love in a Fallen City that NYRB put out and just fell in love with it.

    I'll have to check out Beware of Pity (lovely title). Noticed from Zweig's wiki page that he's responsible for the novella of Letter From an Unknown Woman so I'll have to try to hunt down that as well.

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    A lot of the year-end lists have been published, including the NY Times top ten. It's been gratifying to see Chris Ware's Building Stories show up on so many lists. It was, by far, the best "book" I've read by an American author this year. Surprised to see Zadie Smith's NW on the Times list. Michiko gave it a pretty negative review, if I recall.

    Anyway, I'll play. Of what I've read, these are my top ten favorite books (fiction) of 2012. With the exception of Timothy Mo's Pure, which was semi-self-published in the UK, all these were US releases (or, in the case of works in translation, the first time they've appeared in English in North America). One book I liked a lot was Keith Ridgway's Hawthorn & Child, but New Directions has bought the American rights to the novel and will release it next year.

    1. Dear Life: Stories (Alice Munro)
    2. My Struggle: Volume One (Karl Knausgaard, trans. from the Norwegian by Don Bartlett)
    3. Satantango (Laszlo Krasznahorkai, trans. from the Hungarian by George Szirtes)
    4. Building Stories (Chris Ware)
    5. At Last (Edward St. Aubyn)
    6. The Sickness (Alberto Barerra Tyszka, trans. from the Spanish by Margaret Jull Costa)
    7. Maidenhair (Mikhail Shishkin, trans. from the Russian by Marian Schwartz)
    8. Pure (Timothy Mo)
    9. The Map and the Territory (Michel Houellebecq, trans. from the French by Gavin Bowd)
    10. We're Flying: Stories (Peter Stamm, trans. from the German by Michael Hoffman)

    And here are five honorable mentions. I've chosen five American novels that I liked. I thought this was generally a strong year for American fiction. It's been disappointing to see what I think are overrated efforts by Dave Eggers and Kevin Powers and Junot Diaz get so much awards/critical attention. (I haven't read the Louise Erdrich yet.)

    Canada (Richard Ford)
    Coral Glynn (Peter Cameron)
    Home (Toni Morrison)
    Magnificence (Lydia Millet)
    The Orphan Master's Son (Adam Johnson)

    What has everyone else enjoyed this year?

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    Since I'm mostly into genre stuff and occasional nonfiction, my list isn't particularly literary, or even from 2012 (that just happens to be when I caught up with them). Favorites this year:

    Started Early, Took My Dog - Kate Atkinson
    Cryoburn - Lois McMaster Bujold
    Dawn - Octavia Butler
    The Other Woman's House - Sophie Hannah
    Dragon Ship - Sharon Lee & Steve Miller
    Drift - Rachel Maddow
    Life of Pi - Yann Martel
    Eaarth - Bill McKibben
    The Leopard - Jo Nesbo (trans. by Don Bartlett)
    Poison Flower - Thomas Perry

    I also enjoyed Jo Walton's Among Others and David Mitchell's Cloud Atlas - although I found the film more engaging than the novel.

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    Cricket, what are some of the best gay novels (or at least novels that prominently include gay characters) of the last 4-5 years? Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bryan1311 View Post
    Cricket, what are some of the best gay novels (or at least novels that prominently include gay characters) of the last 4-5 years? Thanks!
    Hmm. A few come to mind, but they certainly won't be to everyone's taste. I really liked the strange and daring Parallel Stories by the great Hungarian writer Péter Nádas, but it's a very difficult, divisive book: 1000+ pages of dense, modernist prose. Another polarizing writer is Dennis Cooper, the maverick American novelist whose extremely dark, violent works have earned him comparisons to de Sade. But I feel like there's something distinct and powerful about his prose style and his sensibility. His latest novel, The Marbled Swarm, was very accomplished, I thought, though, again, not for everyone. There's also Adam Mars-Jones, the British critic/novelist who wrote Pilcrow and Cedilla, which are the first two books of a projected trilogy following the life of a disabled gay man. Despite the premise, they're actually a lot lighter and more comic than Nádas or Cooper, but both books are, like, 600+ pages, so again, they require some commitment. Another challenging but excellent "gay" novel is Keith Ridgway's Hawthorn & Child, which, as I mentioned, is coming out in the US next year.

    LOL, basically, all of the above are only if you're feeling ambitious. I have a few more recommendations that are a little more reader-friendly. I was quite struck by Bethan Roberts' My Policeman, which takes its initial premise from a real-life love affair between the novelist E.M. Forster and a married policeman. It's a little soapy and melodramatic, but ultimately quite moving. I'm also a huge fan of the gay Irish novelist Colm Tóibín. A couple years ago, he published a story collection called The Empty Family, and it's terrific. Many of the stories, though not all, are about gay characters, and it's worth picking up if only for the lengthy final story, "The Street", about a secret romance between two Pakistani men living in Barcelona that's been compared to "Brokeback Mountain". Incidentally, Pedro Almodovar bought the rights to the story and wants to direct the film version. I also liked Alan Hollinghurst's The Stranger's Child, which came out last year. Hollinghurst is probably the most prominent gay writer at the moment. Peter Cameron's Coral Glynn is very good. Andre Aciman's beautiful Call Me By Your Name came out in 2007, and is essential reading if you haven't read it.

    A few more suggestions that I didn't personally love, but that you might be interested in. Michael Chabon is a novelist who has included a lot of gay material in his fiction, and his latest, Telegraph Avenue, is no exception. I wasn't crazy about the book, but others really liked it (I think HS was a fan?). I also wasn't huge on Madeline Miller's The Song of Achilles, which fictionalizes the suggested romantic relationship between Achilles and Patroclus in the Iliad. But a lot of people LOVE that book, and Miller did win the prestigious Orange Prize in England.

    Finally, going back a little further, I don't know if you've read Three Junes by Julia Glass. It won the National Book Award in 2002. I read it a long time ago, and frankly don't remember all that much about it. But I recall liking it, and it is one of the few recent novels to win a major American literary prize that contains gay content (along with The Hours and The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier & Clay, which were Pulitzer winners). Oh, and it's a play, but Stephen Karam's Sons of the Prophet, which was a Pulitzer finalist this year, is solid too.

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    If you're looking at anything published in the last decade or so, Bryan, you should read The Line of Beauty.

    Cricket I'm totally amazed by your comprehensive answer to that question. I will have to check out some of your recommendations. How many books do you read a year, if I may ask?
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    Wow, thanks Cricket! I've already got Telegraph Avenue and The Stranger's Child. I guess I just need to get to reading them. And Call Me By Your Name is pretty much my favorite "gay" novel of all-time.

    I think I'll also check out The Song of Achilles, My Policeman, The Empty Family, and maybe one of the "challenging" novels you list at the top, although I'm not sure I'll have the time.

    TORM: I read The Line of Beauty a few years ago and quite liked it.

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    Agree with praise for:
    Call Me By Your Name
    The Empty Family
    a similarly good short story collection is You Are Not A Stranger Here by Adam Haslett (2002)
    Three Junes
    The Line of Beauty


    I got The Stranger's Child for my birthday but haven't started it yet.

    Would also recommend:
    The Lacuna by Barbara Kingsolver, 2009
    At Swim, Two Boys by Jamie O'Neill, 2001

    Just started Wolf Hall (Hilary Mantel) don't think there's anything gay about it, enjoying it so far
    Looking forward to reading John Irving's latest In One Person next, its main character is bisexual I think.

    ps I read Peter Cameron's Someday This Pain Will Be Useful To You (2007) didn't like it but slogged through till the end
    I'm not much of a Chabon fan either

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    Oh, The Lacuna and At Swim, Two Boys are both really nice
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOppressionRepressesMe View Post
    If you're looking at anything published in the last decade or so, Bryan, you should read The Line of Beauty.

    Cricket I'm totally amazed by your comprehensive answer to that question. I will have to check out some of your recommendations. How many books do you read a year, if I may ask?
    Oh, thanks. I haven't really counted, but probably 50-60 books a year (though I don't always finish all of them), which I realize now averages to about a book a week. I guess that's a fair amount, though my reading is so sporadic (if I like something, I can finish it in a day or two; if not, it can take weeks) and narrow (I mostly just read fiction), it really doesn't feel like a lot.

    And I just remembered, Jennifer Egan's A Visit from the Goon Squad has a minor, though significant, gay character -- but maybe that's a stretch.

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    Actually I really strongly identified with the gay character in Visit from the Goon Squad, and that whole scene, which I thought was wonderful and one of the most moving parts of the book. ERGO IT COUNTS
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    I really did like Telegraph Avenue, but I accept it's mostly seen as one of Chabon's weaker books. I like the way he's trying to make the whole wacky Victorian novel thing work in a modern context, and outside of the section narrated by Barack Obama (seriously), I loved the shifting points-of-view.

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