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Thread: The Comic Book/Comic Film Thread: In Which There Is Horrifying News

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    Some do verge into porn. (The aforementioned Black Bird definitely was. Poorly drawn porn to boot.) Most of them, however, were obviously intended to be either soap-opera-level fluff dramas, or, even worse, cutesy romantic pieces.

    And there are some great series that eke out into the American market still for women. Lovely-Complex is probably the most honest look at teen dating, and its superficiality, I've ever seen. It's honestly a moving piece of work, if you're willing to invest 17 volumes' worth of time in it. And Red River sounds like the world's worst idea for a manga at first - a teenager from Japan is sucked through a pool of standing water and dragged into early Mesopotamian civilization - but turns it into a sprawling, beautiful, complex romantic war drama where the main character literally becomes the Queen of most of the Middle East, via her resourcefulness, kindness, and intelligence. The heroine is a fucking badass in Red River!

    But what's baffling is that American audiences are eating up the more backwards manga - Black Bird is a massive hit stateside, as was Hot Gimmick, which is literally one of the most repulsive manga ever made. I won't go into the incredibly strange weirdness that makes things like Hayate the Combat Butler, which is a "boys" version of a plot of like nine hundred shojo manga (for those curious: boy is bought by precocious rich girl to be a servant to her, wacky hijinks ensue, and we would all be LIVID if this manga was reverse-sexed), popular. And I don't think it's a reflection of the ridiculously anti-feminist books that are also popular right now - Twilight really does go above and beyond in that department, but the only thing that seems to have stuck in terms of popularity about it is supernatural-themed media.

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    I'll take your word for it since I don't read them.

    What I do know is that regardless of whatever quality books or volumes one could recommend, broadly magna (in America at least) seemed to be stereotyped by Hentai. Which is like describing the whole comic book movie genre to BATMAN & ROBIN, but none the less that's the impression I've got.
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    Yeah, we can thank the mid-nineties for that one. America so badly needed Legend of the Overfiend and Cool Devices on its shores.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Largo View Post
    Yeah, we can thank the mid-nineties for that one. America so badly needed Legend of the Overfiend and Cool Devices on its shores.
    Don't forget BIBLE BLACK. (OK that was a PC game not a magna originally, but still.)

    ~I'm still surprised Hollywood hasn't adapted RAPE MAN yet. That can become the new Batman or Spider-Man, with Rape Man lunchboxes across the world.
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    Bible Black is actually newer than those two, and yes that's a fact that I know. And my God, how would we have lived without La Blue Girl?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Largo View Post
    Maybe it's just me, but I swear to God, every shojo manga I've read over this summer, with the exceptions of the sprawling and beautiful Red River and the darkly humorous behind-the-scenes rom-com Skip Beat, have been horribly, horribly anti-feminist. Like, blatantly Twilight-level or worse. I just tried to read this one very popular manga out here, called Black Bird, which is basically about a teenager who was born with a second sight - and this ability makes her the ideal bride for demons who all flock to her. It would be a fascinating story if the girl had any sort of backbone at all. She literally just sits around being sexually harassed by supernatural beings for the entire first volume. What makes it even more ridiculous is that, right now, Sailor Moon is selling in record numbers over here, and a manga from nearly twenty years ago is more progressive and believable in its romantic ideals than something that started running two years ago.

    Sorry about the minor rant, but I tried to read about fifteen different shojo series this summer, and only two passed any sort of muster on the "non-abusive relationship" scale.
    Sadly, and I don't mean to delve into tropes here but to be honest, the idea of Japan as a sexist nation is at least very much true in sub-culture. This hasn't changed much recently. I don't read manga but it's just as true in anime as ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Largo View Post
    Bible Black is actually newer than those two
    Sure but wikipedia says 2000 so I am slightly cheating. (Plus I was unfortunately aware of it back in college around that time.)

    Definately didn't help the cause.
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    Ben Affleck has officially announced that he won't be directing the JUSTICE LEAGUE movie.

    Set photos over in Bourne Woods, Farnham, Surrey*, England for the THOR sequel.

    http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansit.../news/?a=66303

    *=The what what and what?
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    Rumor mill: The Wachowskis might be now in the running to direct JUSTICE LEAGUE.

    http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansit.../news/?a=66319
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    Andy Nyman has joined KICK ASS 2 as "The Tumor."

    http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansit.../news/?a=66329
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    I still really, earnestly hope Kick-Ass 2 either a) never gets made, or b) abandons the entire plot of the comic book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RRA View Post
    Rumor mill: The Wachowskis might be now in the running to direct JUSTICE LEAGUE.

    http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansit.../news/?a=66319
    Yeah, this choice works for me.

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    I'm glad that Supes is now hooking up with WW, if at least because now he's dating someone who's spine won't break by a single super pelvic thrust.

    Their Match.com profiles I could live without, however.

    http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansit.../news/?a=66366

    ~Reading those profiles, I get the impression that they're merely Friends with Benefits.
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    Fox is adapting the graphic novel HEADACHE into a TV series under the new title ATHENA.

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    The alternate opening for AVENGERS that the Internet is talking about today. I think what's funny is some people that bitched on TDKR, saying how in contrast how "fun" and lightful AVENGERS is. I wonder what they think of this?



    ~Not a bad idea, it just doesn't work. I wonder if Latino Review is right about their claim that her character was originally a Skrull agent?
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    New rumor circulating that Scott Snyder might work a new MAN OF STEEL book title for DC next year that'll be set in the unvierse only of the upcoming Zack Snyder (no relation?) movie.
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    Marvel has announced today on their Facebook page that THE AVENGERS is getting re-released to theatres for 1 week, starting this Labor Day weekend and strongly hinted wink wink that something new will be attached to the end credits/

    IRON MAN 3 preview?
    ITEM 47?
    Whedon and Feige swimming in a pool of money like Scrooge McDuck?
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    Whedon in an interview w/ EW and Vulture talks about his "exclusive" Marvel deal. (Likens himself to a consigliere.)

    http://insidemovies.ew.com/2012/08/3...r-day-weekend/
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    Marvel clarified that there will be NO NEW STUFF attached to the end credits of the AVENGERS prints being re-released this week. Sorry.
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